RE: [WSG] WCAG Samurai Errata

2007-06-08 Thread Jason Turnbull
Matthew Pennell wrote: >> I think it's been shown that just about all keys interfere with someone's shortcuts, >> whether it's a browser, screenreader, foreign characters, or whatever. Frank Palinkas wrote: > Interesting. Please tell me where this info is shown? I'd like to know more. Some Info:

RE: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-03 Thread Jason Turnbull
) > been built around the IE6 platform, which would be an absolute > disaster for the department if IE7 was suddenly rolled out If there was truly a 'minus one' policy they would only started developing for IE6, when IE

RE: [WSG] CSS Tabs

2004-07-15 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Jad Madi wrote: > hmm > what I want is , for example > http://www.alistapart.com/d/slidingdoors2/v1/ex10a.html# > when I click on any tab to be active? > How to do it? In the above example you change the body id of each page depending on which tab you want to look active Currently its set to

RE: [WSG] Strange padding in IE?

2004-07-19 Thread Jason Turnbull
> James Cowperthwaite wrote: > The layout problem occurs in IE (fine in mozilla). I want to keep the > text flowing down the page in a straight line, but in IE when the text > passes the end of the blue box, it moves in by 1 or 2 pixels > (illustrated by the green left border for #main). > > I hav

RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?

2004-07-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
Seona, Are you able to provide a link to the page, as images display ok in IE6, with the code you provided. Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hint

RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?

2004-07-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Bellamy wrote: > http://216.119.123.23/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalogue.ListProducts&ID=2&c at > egory=Subcategory > > Have a look, tell me what you see. If you can see them fine, then I think > I might just go quietly insane... ;) There was definitely a problem in IE6 the whole navigation was in

RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?

2004-07-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Seona Bellamy wrote: > Hmm... Thanks, that did seem to make a difference. At any rate, the images > are showing up. > But instead of tiling nicely across the page, they're showing one to > a line and spreading over the whole width of the panel. I've had a look, > and I'm not sure how to fix that

RE: [WSG] Why won't my background images show up in IE?

2004-07-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Seona Bellamy wrote: > As far as hiding from other browsers, I was aware that it > was hidden from IE/Mac by the commented backslash > (that's what the tutorial said, anyway) but is > there a more effective way of hiding it from all the > browsers that we don't want to see it? My apologies, s

RE: [WSG] Problem with height in div

2004-07-31 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Diego Diaz wrote: > Hello again :) > I try make a righ side with some content but this right side cut when > the text finish and cannot enlarge to the bottom site. > http://proyecto.crono.cl > I try with height:100%; on html, body and in the class too. > The name of the class is #ladorecho and my

RE: [WSG] Updated Web Accessibility Tool bar

2004-08-04 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Jamie Mason wrote: > Does anyone know if there's a firefox equivalent? http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefox&id =60&vid=63 Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webs

RE: [WSG] Keyboard accessible dropdown menus - using float layout

2004-08-04 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Jeffery Lowder wrote > I'm looking for an example of a drop down menu that is keyboard > accessible. Heres a couple http://www.udm4.com http://www.accessibility.nl//amenu/index.html Regards Jason * The discussion list for http://webstandards

RE: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

2004-10-12 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Sean Ho wrote: > I am having this caching problem everytime I update my CSS file and the > browser suddenly stop showing the new changes. This only happens in IE > and Firefox occasioinally. Have you tried force refreshing? IE - hold Ctrl and select refresh Firefox - hold Shift and select refre

RE: [WSG] A few problems with IE

2004-10-13 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kim Kruse wrote: > 1. Why won't IE pick up the .tabs hover style? Change the style .tabs li:hover To .tabs li a:hover > 3. On this http://www.mouseriders.dk/test/kontakt.php why > is the background color flowing out of the fieldset (top) This happens in IE, as this page explains http://www.th

RE: [WSG] my site works on Mac, not PC :: suggestions???

2004-10-16 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Shane Helm wrote: > http://sonze.com/lange/index.html > http://sonze.com/lange/bios.html > > Now the CSS: > http://sonze.com/lange/css/master.css IE is doubling the margin on the 'right' and 'left' class, which of course allows no room for the floats to align beside each other Simply add displ

RE: [WSG] gBrowser from Google

2004-09-28 Thread Jason Turnbull
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I was recently told by a friend that there is talk of a browser to be > released soon by Google called "gBrowser" > > I have googled for any news on it, and what support for standards it may > have, but haven't really heard much.. Its been reported they have hired 4 I

RE: [WSG] XHTML external links

2004-10-05 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Richard Czeiger wrote: > Hi guys - having a little problem with the whole external links in > XHTML strict. > Code's below - doesn't seem to be working - can you help out? You were missing a couple of opening brackets, script below now works ok. Regards Jason function externalLinks(){ if

RE: [WSG] How to align form elements

2005-01-01 Thread Jason Turnbull
ement within the form. Regards Jason Turnbull ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **

RE: [WSG] [CSS] IE6 header issue.

2004-03-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
Foundations, I though I was on too many lists until I came across this one, great too been invited and am enjoying the friendly and informative discussions. Regards Jason Turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See h

RE: [WSG] XHTML: 1.0 transitional->1.0 strict->1.1

2004-03-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Neerav wrote: > > So now im comfortable using XHTML 1.0 transitional how hard would moving > to 1.0 strict and then onto 1.1 be? The move from transitional to strict you wont find hard. This list of tags shows what is and isn't allowed in XHTML 1.0 strict, I do not know of any browser quirks c

RE: [WSG] mysterious space

2004-03-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
ech_feature01.html Try adding font-size:0; to your clearer style You have also specified a 5px margin at the bottom of the images in both pic and piclast classes .pic { margin: 0 5px 5px 0; } The order is: top right bottom then left Regards Jason Turnbull **

RE: [WSG] slightly OT web page analyser service

2004-03-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Robert Moser wrote: > Something like this could be used to > demonstrate the advantages of using CSS vs table layout. The only problem I can see is images referenced in the CSS are not taken into account Jason * The discussion list for http

RE: [WSG] this effect

2004-03-22 Thread Jason Turnbull
> 7 sinz wrote: > im trying to duplicate the effect at this site with CSS. > The effect im talking about is where you hover over the plans. > http://www.tel3.com > this is what i got so far, and was wondering how i would get it to work in > IE..should i just add the DOM script from suckerfish DD's?

RE: [WSG] RE: Display issues

2004-03-24 Thread Jason Turnbull
cart.com Removing the vertical-align:middle from the btn class fixed the problem here on Opera 7.23 Also remains how it was in IE6 and Firefox Regards Jason turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstand

RE: [WSG] What's wrong with this page??

2004-03-28 Thread Jason Turnbull
v or html element or adding a height to the containing div. I usually add a height to the problem div (can be 1% IE ignores this and expands) and hide the style from other browsers, which can be done with IE conditional comments or other CSS hacks. Regards Jason

RE: [WSG] CENTERING SITE & WRAPPER PROBLEMS.

2004-04-07 Thread Jason Turnbull
t it is wrong. Create a clearing class, font-size and line-height are added so it will not take up any space .clear { clear:both; font-size:0; line-height:0; } Add it to a html element such as or Put this in just before the wrapper ends Hope t

RE: [WSG] Horizontal Rule throwing out design

2004-04-13 Thread Jason Turnbull
was the only browser causing trouble, and I tried many different suggestions I found on the net I found a post by Eric Meyer to add visibility:hidden, but that still takes up space. So I would also like to hear if anyone has a solution Regards Jason Turnbull *

RE: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

2004-04-14 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Nick Lo wrote: > Does everyone else on the list do this? > For the sake of 11k that is cached on the first page load it seems a > little drastic I would agree its not going to save much, having readable code is much more important, I wonder if people who do this also remove all spaces/tabs withi

RE: [WSG] 100% table inside auto width div

2004-04-22 Thread Jason Turnbull
rticle has a list of doctypes and explanations http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/ Regards Jason Turnbull * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

RE: [WSG] IE no padding?

2004-04-22 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Chris Stratford wrote: > This STUPID bug with IE... > why dont I see any padding for the content here: > www.vipclubs.net It looks the same here on IE5.5/6 and Firefox/Mozilla It appears to have padding to the content The xml prolog will put IE in quirks mode and can be removed safely Regards

RE: [WSG] Problem with IE

2004-05-19 Thread Jason Turnbull
> On this page http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/test.htm  > I have a problem viewing in IE 6. On the left side there > is about 10-15 px space between #navcontainer and #footer > and I can't figure out why. > (CSS here http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/mouseriders.css) Hi Kim, It seems to be th

RE: [WSG] Extending full height (was Problem with IE)

2004-05-19 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kim wrote: > I'm not sure I follow your suggestion. The problem is if I remove the >   the #navcontainer will be shorter that the content/sidebar > meaning there will be a space between #navcontainer and #footer I uploaded > the corrected version here > > Would it be possible to "force" the #nav

RE: [WSG] height problem

2004-05-19 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kim Kruse wrote: > I wrapped the logo and an URL in > an tag, placed it right under the body tag > and now FF is messing up. > http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/test.htm . Firefox has this displayed correctly Floats need to be 'cleared' to move the following content underneath What I would do

RE: [WSG] Extending full height (was Problem with IE)

2004-05-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Jamie Mason wrote: > On higher resolutions the bottom of the pale tan nav area > spills out 100% width below the content and behind the purple sidebar :( > http://digiscape.net.au/test/mouseriders.htm IE wasn't clearing the right float, which I moved now inside the content div, and also gave th

RE: [WSG] Styled not picked up by FF

2004-05-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kim Kruse wrote: > http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/  > Is the padding on the #content is not being picked up by FF > or is it something else preventing FF from moving the #content text down? Kim, The top navigation seems to be causing this, the #nav is floated left. Add a clear:left to the co

RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ As the hidden menus are off screen I found tabbing through the links problematic, with the original suckerfish you could tab along the main sections. I realise display:none has been removed for screen reader access to all links. Jason

RE: [WSG] Styled not picked up by FF

2004-05-22 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kim Kruse wrote: > Once again... thank you very much. It's almost embarrassing. > Just out of curiosity... how long have you been working with CSS? Just over a year now, I by no means an expert. I was fortunate in that I started to learn web design using CSS, so I didn't have to change my way o

RE: [WSG] strange white flash on mouseover

2004-05-24 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Neerav wrote: > Anyone have an idea why the menu at left of http://www.h27.info/ works > fine in Firefox 0.8, Opera 7 and IE 5.5 but in IE 6 when you mouseover > the links they change from the image background into a white background > until you mouseout ? Neerav, I'm not seeing this behaviour i

RE: [WSG] file extensions

2004-06-12 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Just finished article from a reputable web site, specializing in best > practices. They suggest omitting the file extensions .gif , .jpg and > .png from image files for bandwidth conservation. Chris, Whats the URL for this article. I'm finding it hard to grasp the reasoning, does it save on

RE: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Entities (WAS Claiming compliance when a site doesn't comply)

2006-01-05 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kenny Graham wrote: > I really hope I'm right, or I'm gonna have to go back to a lot of > sites to fix a lot of “s and such. > Philippe wrote: > If you want to support Safari (with application/xhtml+xml), I'm > afraid, you'll have to go back... If these entities are not allowed when served as

RE: [WSG] XHTML 1.1 Entities (WAS Claiming compliance when a site doesn't comply)

2006-01-05 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Patrick wrote: > *browser support* for named entities can be flaky Sorry I missed post I'm still surprised that Safari has limited support Thanks Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgrou

RE: [WSG] Sitecheck: 7 Sunrise Family website [sunrisefamily.com.au]

2006-01-30 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Joshua Street wrote: > Still keen to hear anyone's suggestions as to the Firefox 1.0.x render > problem... :) > http://sunrisefamily.com.au/current/content/meet/ No problems seen using Firefox 1.07 on XP Pro. Regards Jason ** The discussion l

RE: [WSG] Address Element

2006-02-19 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Christian Montoya > I told you, you are the author, as in, the markup-writer author... for > every page you work on, the only person that can go in the address tag > is you... or the webmaster running the site. I would disagree, for example when a book goes to print, does the printing house bec

RE: [WSG] "cool" FAQ page [follow up]

2006-02-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Terrence Wood wrote: > Jakob Nielsen responded to my request for clarification Jacob has used this request for his latest article http://www.useit.com/alertbox/within_page_links.html Regards Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstanda

RE: [WSG] Office Live was [Google pages]

2006-02-23 Thread Jason Turnbull
I'm interested to hear if anyone in the US tried Microsoft Office live web site builder, BETA is unavailable to us outsiders http://officelive.microsoft.com Thanks Jason ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://web

RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Jason Turnbull
Kevin Ross wrote: > http://www.hudsonantiquecarclub.com/index.html > IE6 adds an reverse indent just under the header "Monthly Meetings" > (Paragraph starting Rudy's...) > Is this to do with the thumbnail to the left? Known as the 3 pixel text-jog http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/thre

RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-07 Thread Jason Turnbull
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: > > ul a, ul, li, #content_home {height: 1%;} /* Holly hack fix for IE > > bugs */ > > That is a bit radical... giving all those element 'layout' can > possibly cause more problems than it fixes. > In this case: > /* - hide form IE Mac - \*/ > * html #content_contain {h

RE: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

2006-03-08 Thread Jason Turnbull
Kevin Ross wrote: > is there a way to put that whole section in my Style sheet file?  Or in a > seperate file so I can maintain the rules  centrally? Move all your styles into a CSS file ie6.css and just link to the style sheet as you normally would but within the conditional comment Regards J

RE: [WSG] CAPS in stylesheets

2006-03-13 Thread Jason Turnbull
> John Wells wrote: > Can we get a summary of this CAPS lesson? Are we saying that: > > - ONLY when serving XHTML as application/xhtml+xml, stylesheet > selectors must be all lowercase. > > Having said that, I'm a bit confused. I was a bit unsure too as I thought the term 'selectors' in style s

RE: [WSG] Re: uppercase CSS and XHTML

2006-03-13 Thread Jason Turnbull
Lachlan Hunt wrote: > > No, it will not work under XHTML at all. The DOCTYPE is irrelevant, > > XHTML is case sensitive and uppercase element selectors will not match > > anything in XHTML. It will only work for text/html. Designer wrote: > OH Dear, I'm getting confused again! > > When I read t

RE: [WSG] .NET generate horrible html, i need some lights

2007-03-12 Thread Jason Turnbull
Gaspar wrote: > Could someone give me some links or some stuff that someone without > knowledge of ASP could help implementing some improves generate GOOD > (X)HTML What version of .NET are you using? There is a big difference between 1.0 & 2.0. These following links apply to version 2.0 http://m

RE: [WSG] .NET generate horrible html, i need some lights

2007-03-13 Thread Jason Turnbull
Gaspar wrote: > I've been reading some stuff of Ms, > http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa479043.aspx. > > We use both .net 2 and 1 or 1.1, i think they dont care much about if > a menu is tables inside a table but i fighting against taht proving > that the weight is 3 /5 times more and sem

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-20 Thread Jason Turnbull
Michael MD wrote: > ...however I might use that word on pages that require javascript such as > those that use an external api to display maps. > The only people able to use those pages are people using a web browser > that can execute javascript... and 99.99% of such users would be using a > mous

RE: [WSG] why 3px out in ie

2005-02-02 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Adam Hough wrote: > http://dampsponge.com/pir/layouttest.htm > Both are unaligned the same until i try and put a left margin on the > .homebox class. If i put a 3px left margin on this box, firefox does > exactly what i want with the alignment while ie is out of wack. IE6 doubles margin on flo

RE: [WSG] web design presentation: advice?

2005-04-12 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Zulema wrote: > ps: butterflies in my stomach means that my tummy gets grumbly as if I'm > hungry but it's from being nervous; it's a common saying in the States. > As far as it being an in-code joke? No, at least i don't think so :-p Nick was referring to you use of 'butterfiles'. Butterflies

RE: [WSG] Awards / Endorsements for quality websites?

2005-04-17 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Sigurd Magnusson wrote: > I was wondering if anyone knew of a popular sites to promote semanitc > or compliant (or "good" in general) websites? Guild of Accessible Web Designers have a 'Site of the Month' award, voting is by members only, you can nominate a site at http://www.gawds.org/poll/nomi

RE: [WSG] what ie bug is this?

2005-04-29 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Kvnmcwebn wrote: > What ie windows 6 bug creates relics like the ones at the > bottom of the boxes in the central column of this page? > http://mcmonagle.biz/OTI/INDEX3.HTM > I built these "ad boxes" ( the ones with the radisson logo > in the central column) using the ala custom corners method

RE: [WSG] Not so web standard question, but close

2005-06-07 Thread Jason Turnbull
> tee wrote: > "How does Asp/PHP works if &' replace to "&" because the > '&' is generated by the server. He said he can't find any > information on PHP official website. This article from w3c might help in reference to PHP http://www.w3.org/QA/2005/04/php-session Regards Jason

RE: [WSG] PNG Support

2005-06-18 Thread Jason Turnbull
> Jorge Colon wrote: > Dear Friends, > I have just read and signed the online petition: > "Proper PNG Support in Internet Explorer for Windows" > http://www.PetitionOnline.com/msiepng/ Appears MS is listening, heres an announcment regarding IE7 & PNG http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/4/26.aspx

RE: [WSG] "display: inline-block": valid or not? W3C validator says not.

2005-08-15 Thread Jason Turnbull
CSS 2 - W3C recommendation CSS 2.1 - Working draft Until CSS 2.1 becomes a recommendation, which shouldn't be too long (deadline for comments was July), the W3C validator will use what ever the current recommendation is. Regards Jason ** The d