Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-13 Thread Lea de Groot
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:34:35 +0930, Katrina wrote: May I ask you which college/uni teaches web development? I believe Craig is a TAFE student in Brisbane, but I could be mistaken. warmly, Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-13 Thread James Bennett
On 10/12/05, Craig Rippon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Genuine question: Is this because they visit, it doesn't work, and they don't come back, forever losing them as a customer? Probably not. Linux users tend to be running either a Gecko-based browser (Mozilla, Firefox, Galeon and Epiphany being

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-13 Thread James Bennett
On 10/12/05, Paul Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but there should be something similar which uses the KDE desktop. Knoppix uses KDE from (rather rusty) memory http://www.Knoppix.org It does. There's also a KDE version of Ubuntu called Kubuntu: http://kubuntu.org/ -- May the forces of

Cross platform weirdness in FF WAS Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-13 Thread Joshua Street
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 03:16 -0400, James Bennett wrote: Since Gecko-based browsers render (nearly) identically on all platforms, there's no need to worry on that count snip I thought I'd take this opportunity to hijack a thread and ask about a weird problem I've been having with Firefox on

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread john
1) Is it acceptable to go live with a layout that doesn't work with either of these two browsers? (I notice that a number of prominent web standardista websites have done so) Define doesn't work? [I don't have those browsers to hand] If it doesn't work in the sense that some of the content is

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 10/13/05, Ian Fenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a lovely new em-based page on Chinese food that works fine in practically everything apart from Netscape 6.2 and Konqueror 3.05. 1) Is it acceptable to go live with a layout that doesn't work with either of these two browsers? (I notice

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Ian Fenn
John wrote: Define doesn't work? [I don't have those browsers to hand] If it doesn't work in the sense that some of the content is invisible or illegible, links aren't clickable etc, then I don't think I'd say it was acceptable. Sorry for being unclear. The page is pretty broken with

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Craig Rippon
and the market share of Linux in general in my own web site stats is next to nil. Genuine question: Is this because they visit, it doesn't work, and they don't come back, forever losing them as a customer? Craig Rippon Brisbane, Australia

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread john
Sorry for being unclear. The page is pretty broken with overlaid content. You can see my browsercam output at http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=198424 Got it. Yes, pretty broken! Fix the display in those browsers if and when you can. If only I knew where to start... It's taken

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Kay Smoljak
My layouts are pretty basic, so I doubt it wouldn't work. I think the number of people out in the general public using Linux on the desktop is infintismally (sp?) small. On 10/13/05, Craig Rippon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the market share of Linux in general in my own web site stats is next

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Bennett
and the market share of Linux in general in my own web site stats is next to nil. Wouldn't a LOT of Linux users now be Firefox users too? The OS is not the concern here (although Konqueror is Linux exclusive? ), it's getting things working in (somewhat imperfect) browsers. Ian is expressing

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Craig Rippon
: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards My layouts are pretty basic, so I doubt it wouldn't work. I think the number of people out in the general public using Linux on the desktop is infintismally (sp?) small. On 10/13/05, Craig Rippon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and the market share of Linux

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hi Craig, On 10/13/05, Craig Rippon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kay, thanks. I am a web development student at college and this point came up in a lecture, just curious to get opinions. While it's important to be accessible to everyone, harsh economic realities dictate that you have to draw the

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Mark Harris
Kay Smoljak wrote: My layouts are pretty basic, so I doubt it wouldn't work. I think the number of people out in the general public using Linux on the desktop is infintismally (sp?) small. Hem not infinitesimally small, but fewer than Windows. Possibly as many as Mac. IMHO designers fuss

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Nick Cowie
Ian I am with Kay on Netscape 6.2 it was based on Mozilla 0.9.4.1 and released in October 2001. And quickly followed by 6.2.1 6.2.2 and 6.2.3 and then replaced within a year by Netscape 7 which ran a real Mozilla engine 1.0.1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape NS 6.2 has not been in my

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Kay Smoljak
On 10/13/05, Nick Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to test in Linux, get a copy of Ubuntu live CD, drop the CD into your drive, reboot from the CD and you have a fully function Linux box, unfortunately it uses the Gnome desktop which knocks out testing Konqueror, but there should

RE: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Paul Bennett
but there should be something similar which uses the KDE desktop. Knoppix uses KDE from (rather rusty) memory http://www.Knoppix.org Paul ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Katrina
Craig Rippon wrote: Kay, thanks. I am a web development student at college and this point came up in a lecture, just curious to get opinions. Cheers Craig R. Gday, I am a uni student at University of South Australia. May I ask you which college/uni teaches web development? Kat

Re: [WSG] Chinese food and web standards

2005-10-12 Thread Katrina
Katrina wrote: I'm sorry, I totally didn't mean to send that to the list. Kat ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help