Re: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages
Of course that won't help users using skype who don't talk to the designer or read this forum. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Cortney Sellers wrote: Yes – it’s a Skype feature to make numbers easily clickable to use Skype for calling. I believe it can be turned off in Tools Options somewhere… http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=806 http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=806 http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=108 http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=108 Cortney *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *designer *Sent:* Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:29 AM *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her site) appears to her with the button instead of the text. (In IE). (She blamed me, at first!) I know she can turn it off by disabling the Skype add on in IE, but what about all the other folk around the world . . . As this is to do with the web designer's work being tampered with, I feel sure it will come under the heading of standards and accessibility. Sadly, I cannot validate it for myself, but I expect it will be deadly. Anyone got any clues? Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk http://www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages
Yes - it's a Skype feature to make numbers easily clickable to use Skype for calling. I believe it can be turned off in Tools Options somewhere. http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=8 06 _j=questiondetails_i=806 http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase http://support.skype.com/index.php?_a=knowledgebase_j=questiondetails_i=1 08 _j=questiondetails_i=108 Cortney From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 10:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her site) appears to her with the button instead of the text. (In IE). (She blamed me, at first!) I know she can turn it off by disabling the Skype add on in IE, but what about all the other folk around the world . . . As this is to do with the web designer's work being tampered with, I feel sure it will come under the heading of standards and accessibility. Sadly, I cannot validate it for myself, but I expect it will be deadly. Anyone got any clues? Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages
So, to summarize. The web developer creates a nice looking page with content (phone numbers). A user adds software that takes that content and makes it more useful (click to call). The developer and client doesnt like the way that new functionality looks. The developer and client want to disable the functionality that many users may actually use. Doesnt this sound like a mistake? If a user installs software to make better use of your site, you should allow this. If the client doesnt like the way it looks, have them uninstall the software. I dont think you should hurt the users functionality. If nothing else, it is helping the client by making it easier for the user to contact them. This is why Ebay bought skype years ago. They wanted to make it easier for bidders to contact sellers. For what its worth, I have the skype plugin but have never used the click to call functionality. Its annoying sometimes, but easy to ignore. Ted Drake http://last-child.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her site) appears to her with the button instead of the text. (In IE). (She blamed me, at first!) I know she can turn it off by disabling the Skype add on in IE, but what about all the other folk around the world . . . As this is to do with the web designer's work being tampered with, I feel sure it will come under the heading of standards and accessibility. Sadly, I cannot validate it for myself, but I expect it will be deadly. Anyone got any clues? Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 11:29 AM, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 When a user installs Skype or updates to a version that has this feature, they have the option to turn it off. It even tells them what it is going to do. I understand that most users aren't savvy enough to pay attention to these things, but this is like turning off the custom outline on clicking links in Mozilla, or turning off the click sound in IE. Also, even if users find it annoying, I really doubt they will look down on *your* site because it does the same exact thing all the other sites do, that is, it has that weird-phone-number-thing (as your client might have put it). Basically, don't fix what you didn't break! -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages
Hi Ted, - Original Message - From: Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages So, to summarize. The web developer creates a nice looking page with content (phone numbers). A user adds software that takes that content and makes it more useful (click to call). The developer and client doesn't like the way that new functionality looks. The developer and client want to disable the functionality that many users may actually use. Doesn't this sound like a mistake? If a user installs software to make better use of your site, you should allow this. If the client doesn't like the way it looks, have them uninstall the software. I don't think you should hurt the user's functionality. If nothing else, it is helping the client by making it easier for the user to contact them. This is why Ebay bought skype years ago. They wanted to make it easier for bidders to contact sellers. For what its worth, I have the skype plugin but have never used the click to call functionality. It's annoying sometimes, but easy to ignore. Ted Drake http://last-child.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her site) appears to her with the button instead of the text. (In IE). (She blamed me, at first!) I know she can turn it off by disabling the Skype add on in IE, but what about all the other folk around the world . . . As this is to do with the web designer's work being tampered with, I feel sure it will come under the heading of standards and accessibility. Sadly, I cannot validate it for myself, but I expect it will be deadly. Anyone got any clues? Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk Absolutely Ted, except that this client (as suspected by Christian) didn't have a clue where this feature had come from , and certainly didn't know that it could be turned off. (That's why she blamed me! :-). I strongly suspect that this is the norm, and I would have thought that at least it should be made clearer to the Skype user. Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Hey Bob, I totally agree with Ted and designer, and people who have the phone number auto Skype 'thing' turned on will actually be expecting that highlighting on any phone numbers. You should make it clear that you're really reducing the accessibility of the page by disabling the feature, as well as unnecessarily complicating the code. It's always a pain explaining the technology to 'insistent' clients. I find it helps if you send them a link to a forum or blog that says the same thing. It shows that it really is about the technology, not just an excuse. It always seems to be those that know the least complain the loudest. :P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Wednesday, 27 August 2008 4:24 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Hi Ted, - Original Message - From: Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 5:14 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages So, to summarize. The web developer creates a nice looking page with content (phone numbers). A user adds software that takes that content and makes it more useful (click to call). The developer and client doesn't like the way that new functionality looks. The developer and client want to disable the functionality that many users may actually use. Doesn't this sound like a mistake? If a user installs software to make better use of your site, you should allow this. If the client doesn't like the way it looks, have them uninstall the software. I don't think you should hurt the user's functionality. If nothing else, it is helping the client by making it easier for the user to contact them. This is why Ebay bought skype years ago. They wanted to make it easier for bidders to contact sellers. For what its worth, I have the skype plugin but have never used the click to call functionality. It's annoying sometimes, but easy to ignore. Ted Drake http://last-child.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of designer Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Skype changing format of my pages Does anyone know a way to prevent Skype changing telephone numbers into skype buttons on pages I have carefully designed/coded. It bothers others too : http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=113096 I do not use Skype, but one of my clients does, and my page design (for her site) appears to her with the button instead of the text. (In IE). (She blamed me, at first!) I know she can turn it off by disabling the Skype add on in IE, but what about all the other folk around the world . . . As this is to do with the web designer's work being tampered with, I feel sure it will come under the heading of standards and accessibility. Sadly, I cannot validate it for myself, but I expect it will be deadly. Anyone got any clues? Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk Absolutely Ted, except that this client (as suspected by Christian) didn't have a clue where this feature had come from , and certainly didn't know that it could be turned off. (That's why she blamed me! :-). I strongly suspect that this is the norm, and I would have thought that at least it should be made clearer to the Skype user. Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** WARNING: The information contained in this email may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use or copying of any part of this information is unauthorised. If you have received this email in error, we apologise for any inconvenience and request that you notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this email, together with any attachments. *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
