Then perhaps you would care to explain why this document:
http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest2.htm
activates standards mode, when the table you've linked to suggests
that it should be in quirks mode?
Table clearly shows, that this page should activate standards mode.
It is the last line,
I took a look at your source code - there are a whole bunch of issues
beginning with oddities in your HTML - things like:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd;
HTML lang=en xml:lang=en
June 2009 02:38
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.
I took a look at your source code - there are a whole bunch of issues
beginning with oddities in your HTML - things like:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
http
@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.
Joe is right, you got alot of tags unclosed and you're switch from HTML to
XHTML style tags. Pick one, and use the validator!
You'll see a pretty much bug free site in no time.
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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Joseph Taylor j...@sitesbyjoe.com wrote:
I took a look at your source code - there are a whole bunch of issues
beginning with oddities in your HTML - things like:
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN
On that page, you will see an italic letter v on the left hand side of
the screen, and a view cart link on the right hand side which is NOT
clickable, but which should be clickable.
The issue does not seem to be related to standards. I cleaned up the code
and the problem persists. The cause is
I see I have still not conviced you of the weirdness of this bug. I've
updated my version to have a 1px border, and more items in the list,
which are NOT covered by the P element. None of them are clickable,
disconfirming your conclusions.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Kepler Gelotte
Try adding borders to all block level elements (ie. p, div etc).
Firebug does this for you in Firefox, but you'll need to do it manually
for IE. To make it much more obvious, set a background color too (eg. p,
div {background-color: #00f;} ). If there are unclickable links then
chances are
Sorry, I misread your message, looks like this is not the problem.
Please disregard.
Robert Turner wrote:
Try adding borders to all block level elements (ie. p, div etc).
Firebug does this for you in Firefox, but you'll need to do it
manually for IE. To make it much more obvious, set a
Dropping the DOCTYPE declaration appears to fix it...
Breton Slivka wrote:
I see I have still not conviced you of the weirdness of this bug. I've
updated my version to have a 1px border, and more items in the list,
which are NOT covered by the P element. None of them are clickable,
I'm pretty sure the well observed and documented behavior of IE is
that WHICH doctype makes absolutely not a lick of difference at all.
This is not correct.
The only thing it looks for is the string !doctype at the beginning
of the document, which decides whether it goes into quirksmode or
Then perhaps you would care to explain why this document:
http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest2.htm
activates standards mode, when the table you've linked to suggests
that it should be in quirks mode?
for comparison, here's a typical html 4.0 strict doctype:
http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest1.htm
I
I see I have still not conviced you of the weirdness of this bug. I've
updated my version to have a 1px border, and more items in the list,
which are NOT covered by the P element. None of them are clickable,
disconfirming your conclusions.
Actually, I was agreeing with you that it is a bug.
So you think that there's an invisible part to the paragraph that is
not outlined by the border? Kind of makes the border 1px approach to
development kind of useless in IE in the face of behavior like this,
don't you think? But I still don't think this idea quite matches up.
In the broken version,
To counter my point and support yours though, setting a width on the P
tag also makes the elements clickable. Which does seem to suggest that
the P tag extends vertically down further than its border suggests it
does.
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Breton Slivka z...@zenpsycho.com wrote:
So you
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