Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
Hi, Search engines are blind readers - design for accessibility. Each page on the Website should be on a specific topic (except, perhaps,for the Homepage). Put the topic first in the title tag, so that it is easily identifiable from the other pages. The top header in the page content should also relate to the topic. The keywords you wish to obtain search engine results for, for any particular page, are presumably the page topic. Stuart On Tue, April 19, 2011 8:30 pm, Stevio wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in the title tag? Thanks, Stephen *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
If you are trying to get names or businesses found on the internet, don't forget to use microformats. From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Mick Doherty Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2011 9:10 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords? Put the Title first followed by keywords if space permits, use fewer than 70 characters including spaces On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are. are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site open in tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit first. e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
Hi Stephen, I'd probably suggest going for the keywords first - in the normal run of things, you've only got 60 characters to play with (including spaces) for the page title, and needless to say, your choice of words for the home page in particular will be crucial in the SEO stakes. Hope that helps! With best wishes, Alex Stanhope 247 Creative Email: a...@247creative.co.uk Web:www.247creative.co.uk Phone: +44 (0)1243 530928 Mobile: +44 (0)7930 406778 Office Address: Forum House, Stirling Road, Chichester, West Sussex, PO19 7DN Digital Media 247 Ltd trading as 247 Creative. Company Number: 07302069. Registered Address: 41B Beach Road, Littlehampton, West Sussex, United Kingdom, BN17 5JA Web designer, developer or student looking to break into the industry? Or maybe you know someone who is... check out http://heartandsole.org.uk/ On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in the title tag? Thanks, Stephen *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
Yes, search engines will put more strength on the first few words in your title tags. So I'd recommend: Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd Dan Freeman Webmaster ERP Administrator 800.650.6506 (TOLL FREE) 330.655.0341 (DIRECT) www.lexi.com -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Stevio Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:31 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords? When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in the title tag? Thanks, Stephen *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** LEXI-COMP CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE The information in this electronic mail is intended for the named recipients only. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended receiver is prohibited. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this electronic e-mail or by calling 330-650-6506. Please delete it from your computer. Thank you. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are. are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site open in tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit first. e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
When it comes to search engine optimisation, Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are. +1 -- Regards, Thierry @thierrykoblentz www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | www.css-101.org *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
Put the Title first followed by keywords if space permits, use fewer than 70 characters including spaces On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are. are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site open in tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit first. e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
Put in a descriptive title reflecting the content, then the company name. Arka Bhattacharya Intranet Specialist, Corporate Affairs Level 22, 45 Clarence Street, Sydney NSW 2000 p | 02 9276 8102 f | 02 9276 8027 e | arka.bhattacha...@bankwest.com.au AFR Smart Investor Blue Ribbon Awards 2010 Bank of the Year From: Mick Doherty mick.dohe...@gmail.com To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: 20/04/2011 09:12 AM Subject:Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords? Sent by:li...@webstandardsgroup.org Put the Title first followed by keywords if space permits, use fewer than 70 characters including spaces On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 7:52 AM, David Dorward da...@dorward.me.uk wrote: On 19 Apr 2011, at 20:30, Stevio wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, Stop. Build sites for people, not robots. Search engines are optimising to find the best sites for people, aim for the same target as they are. are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? Specific title first. If the visitor has multiple pages from your site open in tabs, then they will be indistinguishable with the generic bit first. e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ ___ This email has been scanned by the Bankwest Email Security System. ___ ___ Unencrypted electronic mail is not secure and may not be authentic. If you have any doubts as to the contents please telephone to confirm. This electronic transmission including any attachments is intended only for those to whom it is addressed. It may contain copyright material or information that is confidential, privileged or exempt from disclosure by law. Any claim to privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken transmission of this information. If you are not the intended recipient you must not distribute or copy this transmission and should please notify the sender. Your costs for doing this will be reimbursed by the sender. We do not accept liability in connection with computer virus, data corruption, delay, interruption, unauthorised access or unauthorised amendment. ___ __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?
Stevio, Agreed with the other answer but the main reason is for people to see what the page is about first. Google ranks pages not websites so ABC Engineering is the last thing big G or the user is thinking about, they want to know that clicking on this search result will get them the steel fabrication information they are looking for. Who made it and where you are come later, so put the title of the page first. On 20 April 2011 02:30, Stevio redea...@freeuk.com wrote: When it comes to search engine optimisation, are you better to list the site name/business name first in the title tag, and then keywords, or the other way round? e.g. ABC Engineering Ltd - Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding or Steel Fabrication, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd Are you likely to do better in search engines with the keywords first in the title tag? Thanks, Stephen *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Carl Heaton Managing Director and Instructor www.WebCoursesBangkok.com Training Centre 253 Building 18th Floor, Sukhumvit 21 Asoke Bangkok 10110 Mobile: 0867824118 Skype: carl68 Twitter: @webcoursesbkk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
