Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, You could try the cellphone emulator at: http://mtld.mobi/emulator.php for an idea on rendition on cellphones. On Sun, August 5, 2007 4:01 am, Tee G. Peng wrote: I never see a website in a handheld device (my cellphone allows me to brows the internet but I am unwilling to test it as I

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 5, 2007, at 12:45 AM, Stuart Foulstone wrote: Hi, You could try the cellphone emulator at: http://mtld.mobi/emulator.php for an idea on rendition on cellphones. Stuart, Do you know how accurate the renditionis for this emulator? And compare with Opera Mini and other simulators.

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread John Faulds
So which emulators (simulators) are correct? They probably all are but just as Opera renders differently from IE6 on a desktop, Opera Mini (or Mobile) renders differently from other mobile browsers. In fact, there's more difference among mobile browsers than there is desktop browsers and

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Kit Grose
So which emulators (simulators) are correct? As John said, phone browsers vary as much (actually, more) than their desktop counterparts. On the phone, there are a few different environments I'd test in: 1. Safari (WebKit is the primary browser on Nokia S60 devices, as well as the iPhone

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Michael MD
As John said, phone browsers vary as much (actually, more) than their desktop counterparts. much more actually ... On the phone, there are a few different environments I'd test in: 1. Safari (WebKit is the primary browser on Nokia S60 devices, as well as the iPhone of course. There are

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-05 Thread Nick Cowie
Tee asked So which emulators (simulators) are correct? Which one of the 30+ mobile web browsers are you trying to emulate? There are many different browsers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microbrowser#Popular_mobile_browsers and even different versions of the same browser that render pages

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread John Faulds
The only site I've done with a handheld stylesheet is: http://www.thiesskentz.com.au/ As far as testing goes, not sure how reliable DW's previews would be considering how bad their design view is. Other testing options include: http://www.operamini.com/demo/

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread Tee G. Peng
On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:42 PM, John Faulds wrote: The only site I've done with a handheld stylesheet is: http:// www.thiesskentz.com.au/ As far as testing goes, not sure how reliable DW's previews would be considering how bad their design view is. Other testing options include:

RE: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread Andrew Boyd
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 1:01 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] designing for handheld On Aug 4, 2007, at 6:42 PM, John Faulds wrote: The only site I've done with a handheld stylesheet is: http:// www.thiesskentz.com.au/ As far as testing goes, not sure

Re: [WSG] designing for handheld

2007-08-04 Thread John Faulds
The obvious different is that there are two Thiess Kents logo, one big, one small, the small one overlapping the Engineers Constructors Actually, that was an oversight on my part. It's fixed now. Thanks! You can also get an idea of what your site will looked like on handhelds using Opera