Re: [WSG] safari and title attr (plus cursors)
But the title attribute isn't intended for people with peripheral vision. Safari's behaviour is correct but I think convention now renders it incorrect. Personally, I don't like messages popping up everywhere when I move my mouse around - if it's so important it should be obvious anyway IMHO, and 99% of the messages I get are pointless. I use the title attribute to improve accessibility. But I think the argument's lost on this one ;-) On 30 Nov 2003, at 04:50, James Ellis wrote: But the way Safari does it means it's outside my peripheral vision unless the link is right next to the status bar. If it's contextual then it should be beside the link. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] safari and title attr (plus cursors)
Hey But the way Safari does it means it's outside my peripheral vision unless the link is right next to the status bar. If it's contextual then it should be beside the link. Opera seems to do both - but every Opera installation I've had defaults to the status bar being off... Good to see that it is being done as a tooltip. Adding to this, I'm wondering if anyone knows what cursors Safari supports. cursor:help; doesn't seem to have the desired results. Cheers James Jonathan Baldwin wrote: FYI the next version of Safari will in fact put title attributes as tool tips (according to Hyatt, the lead developer). However, my understanding from an accessibility point of view is that Safari and Opera are correct in their way of handling these at the moment (I think I got that from Zeldman but may have dreamt it) On 20 Nov 2003, at 03:08, James Ellis wrote: Yeah yeah I've read the W3c spec and it's open to various methods. Agree with your rant, the safari method is a bit agricultural - it's contextual and it hides the link. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] safari and title attr
James Ellis wrote: Anyone know if there is a reason why the title attr doesn't effect some sort of contextual description next to the mouse (e.g a tooltip) but plonks it in the status bar instead? From the horses mouth: Values of the title attribute may be rendered by user agents in a variety of ways. http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#adef-title Also, Opera 7 displays the title content in the status bar (if you have it visible) in a tooltip, which (IMHO) is kinda annoying for links with title attributes as you have no way of knowing the URL for the link. I wrote a small rant a while back on how stupid displaying things like this in the status bar is, it was mainly about displaying information relevant to menu items though - http://lindsay.f2o.org/blog/read?ObjectID:44; (yes, the semicolon is important) -- Lindsay Evans. Developer, Red Square Productions. [p] 8596.4000 [f] 8596.4001 [w] www.redsquare.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
