Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Will Jensen
I just began having the same Firefox problem last night. Continues today. FF locks up. And no other browser running at same time. Seems to be recent issue. I was using all browsers - loaded and operating - last week (except cannot run NN7 and Mozilla at same time) FF worked fine then - no matter

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Tim Burgan
Hi Wayne, Wayne Godfrey wrote: Am I having Firefox problems because the latest Netscape is also on my Mac OSX (Panther) as well? The latest version of Firefox has been acting strangely ever since I installed Netscape (or thereabouts). I can't seem to quit Firefox without it remaining in the menu

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread David R
Wong Chin Shin wrote: Hi, In addition to making sure our codes adhere to standards, we also face the unenviable task of making sure they appear right in as many UAs are possible. Therefore, I reckon it's not too far off topic here when I ask what are the usual browsers to check against and how in

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Roger Johansson
On 18 dec 2004, at 20.12, Wong Chin Shin wrote: I've never failed to be amazed when somebody does a site review listing test results with 10 UAs or more. How many machines do you have running in your cubicle?!?!? One. A PowerMac G4 running Mac OS X, with Virtual PC installed. I can run any

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Tim Burgan
I was going to make a post about browsers also, but it fits directly into your post also... Is it necessary to test the same browser on different platforms (e.g. IE6 on Win2000 AND WinXP), or ok to just test all available windows browsers in XP? Tim

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Will Jensen wrote: I just began having the same Firefox problem last night. Continues today. FF locks up. And no other browser running at same time. Not to state the obvious, but: have you created separate profile directories for each of the Gecko based browsers? It sounds like NN corrupted the

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
Tim Burgan wrote: Is it necessary to test the same browser on different platforms (e.g. IE6 on Win2000 AND WinXP), or ok to just test all available windows browsers in XP? Believe it or not, sometime yes. I've had different results with IE5 on Win9x and WinXP (In truth, the CSS was a little

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread JohnyB
Some advice for Windows users - don't bother with those Mac emulators that only let you run Mac OS 7.5... If this is targeted to me, than thanks for advice, but don't be afraid, I'll try to run Panther via PearPC. And I'm going to buy an (i|Power)Book soon (I love it, but Mac is not much common

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread JohnyB
I use http://www.browsercam.com, its got practically every UA Well, it's really good and useful service. However if you need to test the styles and edit them on-the-fly, it's a bit difficult. Anyways... it's still a great idea... -- Jan Brasna :: alphanumeric.cz | webcore.cz | designlab.cz |

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
JohnyB wrote: I use http://www.browsercam.com, its got practically every UA Well, it's really good and useful service. However if you need to test the styles and edit them on-the-fly, it's a bit difficult. Anyways... it's still a great idea... Doesn't help it you need to test JavaScript or

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread David R
Mordechai Peller wrote: From what I read, the port of IE 5/Mac to OSX didn't go well; it's almost a different browser. Indeed, you cannot compare IE5/Mac to IE5/Win, they were both developed independenly of each other... they use different rendering engines, and IE5/Mac was the first browser

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
David R wrote: From what I read, the port of IE 5/Mac to OSX didn't go well; it's almost a different browser. Indeed, you cannot compare IE5/Mac to IE5/Win, they were both developed independenly of each other... they use different rendering engines, and IE5/Mac was the first browser ever to

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
David R wrote: Wong Chin Shin wrote: ... and how in tarnation do some of you guys manage to maintain so many of them. Simple answer: I don't :) I use http://www.browsercam.com, its got practically every UA and platform under the sun, the Remote Access feature is particularly useful Browsercam

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread Felix Miata
Tim Burgan wrote: Is it necessary to test the same browser on different platforms (e.g. IE6 on Win2000 AND WinXP), or ok to just test all available windows browsers in XP? Depends whether you require pixel perfection or not. Fonts, including those standard with windoze that are often

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible.

2004-12-19 Thread LEE CRESSWELL
Dear all, a good example of a platform that gives certain fonts preferential treatment is the mac version of coloured form fields vs. microsoft version of the same code. Regards, Lee. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-19 Thread David R
Mordechai Peller wrote: Doesn't help it you need to test JavaScript or :hover. I use their Remote Access (custom version of VNC tied to their Terminal Server) tool, granted... there is some lag for updates, its good for most tasks -David -- **

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-18 Thread Bennie Shepherd
You can go down to netscape 4.7 here: http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/archive.jsp Bennie On 12/18/2004 2:12:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, In addition to making sure our codes adhere to standards, we also face the unenviable task of making sure they appear right in as many UAs

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-18 Thread JohnyB
I'll show my setup... 1) IE 6 (at least 3 versions of them?), IE 5.5, IE/Mac and below (I've got IE 6 but how do I install IE 5.5 and where do I find it?) IE 4.0, IE 5.01, IE 5.5, IE 6.0, planning IE/Mac via PearPC. http://www.skyzyx.com/archives/94.php 2) Mozilla/Firefox (no issue finding

Re: [WSG] Checking in as many browsers as possible

2004-12-18 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Ag!! Am I having Firefox problems because the latest Netscape is also on my Mac OSX (Panther) as well? The latest version of Firefox has been acting strangely ever since I installed Netscape (or thereabouts). I can't seem to quit Firefox without it remaining in the menu and is unusable