Re: [WSG] Federal Court hearing re Virgin Blue website accessiblity
Chris, thanks for bringing it to my attention, I did not know about the up coming court case. I have seen a letter Mr Kerr sent a company regarding an inaccessible website: http://forums.port80.asn.au/showthread.php?t=12018#6 and received and replied to email Mr Kerr sent as a response to my forum comment. Apparently I have a different opinion from Mr Kerr on what makes a web site accessible under the Disabilities Discrimination Act. It should be an interesting case and I am looking forward to the results. This will be very different from Maguire vs SOCOG as it is in the Federal Magristrates Court not the Human Rights Commission. I hope that Mr Kerr's legal team have more than Mr Kerr and a letter from HREOC on their side. Because if I was Virgin Blue, I would have a couple of experts from Vision Australia and a couple of screen reader users to tell/show how they can book tickets via Virgin Blue's website (ala the Target defense last year in the US). -- Nick Cowie http://nickcowie.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Federal Court hearing re Virgin Blue website accessiblity
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently I have a different opinion from Mr Kerr on what makes a web site accessible under the Disabilities Discrimination Act. Care to expand on that point? Do his views jibe with what most web developers would consider 'accessible'? - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Federal Court hearing re Virgin Blue website accessiblity
2009/1/20 Matthew Pennell matthewpenn...@gmail.com On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently I have a different opinion from Mr Kerr on what makes a web site accessible under the Disabilities Discrimination Act. Care to expand on that point? Do his views jibe with what most web developers would consider 'accessible'? From Mr Kerr's original letter, his opinion appears to that the WCAG 1.0 guidelines priority level 1, 2 and 3 are the be all and end all of accessibility, particularly with regard to the DDA. I take a far more pragmatic approach, particularly when it comes to the 10 year WCAG 1.0 and a number of the priority 3 guidelines that are more likely to make a site inaccessible than accessible. http://wcagsamurai.org/ Personally I find both WCAG 1.0 and WCAG 2.0 to be lacking when it comes to language related disabilities. Both for people with cognitive impairments and those with english as second language, for example people with hearing impairment whose primary language is sign language. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Federal Court hearing re Virgin Blue website accessiblity
2009/1/20 Chris Dimmock chris.dimm...@gmail.com: Did anyone else see this?? http://www.propellerglobal.com/news/News/128/virgin-blue-to-court-again-for-discrimination http://www.theage.com.au/travel/virgin-blue-in-court-over-website-20090119-7kc1.html Been a while since SOCOG.. Yes, this one went around the office since apparently this guy tried poking some websites managed by one of our sister-companies. It will be interesting to see how this one fares in the courts, given that there is now a precedent. Not sure if the fact that Virgin Blue say they have already been working with and getting advice from Vision Australia on this matter will make a difference in their favour or not, either. I just can't get over the fact that he seems to have nothing better to do that patrol the web looking for accessibility offenders (over 30,00 sites??!!). Someone really needs to get out more... ~Seona *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
