RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-06 Thread Dan Freeman
I agree ... Bulletproof Web Design is highly recommended. Dan -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jon Reece Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:05 PM To: wsg Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference They may be a little old

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-06 Thread Thierry
I was unable to find any contact information on that site... Without weighing in on the substance of what w3fools.com itself is saying, I'd suggest the substantialish list of twitter usernames under From at the top of the page might constitute a good starting point for making contact... :P

RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-06 Thread Hayden O'Sullivan
reference I agree ... Bulletproof Web Design is highly recommended. Dan -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jon Reece Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 8:05 PM To: wsg Subject: Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference They may

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Russ Weakley
A lot of personal opinion here... but try these books: Stunning CSS3 by Zoe Gilenwater The CSS Anthology by Rachel Andrew Designing with CSS by Andy Clarke Transcending CSS by Andy Clarke http://www.transcendingcss.com/ The Ultimate CSS reference by Tommy Olsson Paul O’Brien Building your

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Jason Grant
Shameless! ;-) Sent from my iPad On 6 Apr 2011, at 00:20, Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.au wrote: A lot of personal opinion here... but try these books: Stunning CSS3 by Zoe Gilenwater The CSS Anthology by Rachel Andrew Designing with CSS by Andy Clarke Transcending CSS by

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Jon Reece
They may be a little old comparatively, but Bulletproof Web Design and Handcrafted CSS (both by Dan Cederholm) helped me in a big way. - Jon On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Andrew Staff andrew.st...@zebraweb.com.au wrote: Hello all, I was wondering if anyone on this distribution list would

RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Andrew Cooper
Hey fellow Web Developer also named Andrew! The Ultimate HTML Reference (SitePoint) by Ian Lloyd - http://reference.sitepoint.com/htmlThe Ultimate CSS Reference (SitePoint) Tommy Olsson Paul O'Brien - http://reference.sitepoint.com/css (this is the one that Russ mentioned) You can get them

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Kevin Ireson
Oh come on. Surely you cannot dispute http://www.w3schools.com/ for the basics. Even after all of these years. The fundamental concepts work. Kev http://.hotels-london-hoteks.com From: Andrew Staff Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:56 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG]

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Kevin Ireson wrote: Oh come on. Surely you cannot dispute http://www.w3schools.com/ for the basics. Even after all of these years. The fundamental concepts work. I wouldn't trust w3schools.com (note that it has nothing to do with the W3C) after looking at their

RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Webb, KerryA
Chris wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Kevin Ireson wrote: Oh come on. Surely you cannot dispute http://www.w3schools.com/ for the basics. Even after all of these years. The fundamental concepts work. I wouldn't trust w3schools.com (note that it has nothing to do with the W3C)

RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Chris F.A. Johnson
On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Webb, KerryA wrote: Chris wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Kevin Ireson wrote: Oh come on. Surely you cannot dispute http://www.w3schools.com/ for the basics. Even after all of these years. The fundamental concepts work. I wouldn't trust w3schools.com (note that it has

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Russ Weakley
I wouldn't trust w3schools.com (note that it has nothing to do with the W3C) after looking at their HTML tutorial: http://cfajohnson.com/torontowebdesign/w3schools/ There is also this site which takes issue with W3schools: http://w3fools.com/ Personally, I think the approach taken

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Hassan Schroeder
On 4/5/11 7:31 PM, Webb, KerryA wrote: You say (on that page): The alt attribute is mandatory, not just good practice. It's not, you know. For decorative images, it's not even recommended. via http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#edef-IMG -- src %URI;

RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Webb, KerryA
On 4/5/11 7:31 PM, Webb, KerryA wrote: You say (on that page): The alt attribute is mandatory, not just good practice. It's not, you know. For decorative images, it's not even recommended. via http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#edef-IMG -- src

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Thierry
There is also this site which takes issue with W3schools: http://w3fools.com/ Personally, I think the approach taken by w3fools is a little too aggressive and emotional. Though they have relevant concerns, they use phrases like the site lies, blatantly false etc. I agree The things is,

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Thierry
You say (on that page):       The alt attribute is mandatory, not just good practice. It's not, you know.  For decorative images, it's not even recommended. For decorative images authors should use empty alt text (alt=). Most screen-readers read the src value if they can't find a alt

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Thierry
I was wondering if anyone on this distribution list would have a recommendation for a great HTML/CSS reference bible? Not a great reference bible, but it may help to better understand CSS as it allows users to try things by themselves to figure out how things work. http://www.css-101.org

Re: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference

2011-04-05 Thread Josh Street
On 06/04/2011, at 3:09 PM, Thierry wrote: I was unable to find any contact information on that site... Without weighing in on the substance of what w3fools.com itself is saying, I'd suggest the substantialish list of twitter usernames under From at the top of the page might constitute a good