Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
I use www.editize.com extensively on all my projects for client admin area, but yes...it's a java plugin, and it's not completely free. Patrick Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a browser based editor (preferably written in PHP) that will allow clients to update code themselves, but that outputs standards compliant XHTML? I am not interested in a full CMS, this is just for updating page snippets etc. I have come across WYSIWYG Pro which looks good. Thanks Sarah -- _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
I've found a half way measure at: http://www.flyspeck.net which does not require a CMS in place, but it doesn't appear to handle XHTML. Can anyone tell me how much of an issue this would be if the client is only updating paragraphs of text, an image upload - simple stuff? There is some degree of control over Flyspeck's editable areas (ref: http://www.flyspeck.net/technical_info/more_control.php ) Thanks for all the other suggestions which I'm looking into too. Sarah I use www.editize.com extensively on all my projects for client admin area, but yes...it's a java plugin, and it's not completely free. Patrick Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a browser based editor (preferably written in PHP) that will allow clients to update code themselves, but that outputs standards compliant XHTML? I am not interested in a full CMS, this is just for updating page snippets etc. I have come across WYSIWYG Pro which looks good. Thanks Sarah -- _ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4782 3104 mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au | web design | digital imaging | corporate logos | http://www.bureke.com.au | consultancy | e-commerce | usability reports | ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
I've been looking for a year now for an editor that will produce XHTML. I've chatted electronically with most of the developers/owners and I think as a group they didn't have XHTML on their radar screens at all. The guy who produces FCKEditor for example ( have trouble reading that without mildly shocking myself) told me that yes, he must get around to doing a XHTML version one day soon. Until then it'll change all tags to upper case, it'll allow BR and FONT tags. The only one I've found that produces XHTML is a coldfusion one that Italian Massimo Foti has made. It has the added advantage of a reduced feature set too, so people can't add a hundred fonts etc to their text. It's a lot better at restricting the user's choices to your style sheet options than the others are it seems. Disclaimer: let me add that I have only looked at the coldfusion apps because that's all I need - there may well be other apps that do XHTML in PHP or .ASP or whatever. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarah Peeke (XERT) Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2004 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor I've found a half way measure at: http://www.flyspeck.net which does not require a CMS in place, but it doesn't appear to handle XHTML. Can anyone tell me how much of an issue this would be if the client is only updating paragraphs of text, an image upload - simple stuff? There is some degree of control over Flyspeck's editable areas (ref: http://www.flyspeck.net/technical_info/more_control.php ) Thanks for all the other suggestions which I'm looking into too. Sarah ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
Here's a list of WYSIWYG editors out of my bookmarks folder. XHTML WYSIWYG Editors: (1) Xstandard http://www.telerik.com/Default.aspx?PageId=1586 (2) r.a.d. Editor - The granddaddy of them all. Here's a list of only a few of the features: * Cross-browser support - IE, Netscape, Mozilla. * XHTML compliant. * Find and Replace in Design- and HTML-mode. * Spell checking with the MS Word dictionaries plus Multilingual spell checker(19 languages). * Easy localization through XML. * Full table editing, Word®-like table builder. * Document uploader (PDF, DOC, CHM, etc.) * Enhanced image dialog, thumbnail generator ...etc. The list never ends. http://www.telerik.com/Default.aspx?PageId=1586 WYSIWYG editors I've used or toyed around with: (1) ActiveEdit * Compatible with IE4+, Netscape 6.2+, and Mozilla 1.0+ and works with Mac OS X Safari Browser. * Comes with built-in spell checker. http://www.cfdev.com/activedit/ (2) Cross-browser Rich Text Editor * Compatible with IE5+/Mozilla 1.3+/Mozilla Firebird/Firefox 0.6.1. * Comes with ASP/PHP/HTML demos. * Supports multiple WYSIWYG editor instances on one page http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm (3) FCK Editor * Compatible with IE 5+, Mozilla and Netscape http://www.fckeditor.net/ (4) Mishoo HTMLArea * Compatible with IE 5.5+ and Mozilla 1.3 http://dynarch.com/mishoo/htmlarea.epl (5) InteractiveTools HTMLArea * Compatible with IE 5.5+ (Windows)/Mozilla 1.3 (all OS) http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ (6) KUPU * Compatible with Netscape, Mozilla and IE http://kupu.oscom.org/ WYSIWYG editors listing: (1) http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/cms/ttw/ttw.html (2) http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Authoring/HTML/WYSIWYG_Editors/ WYSIWYG editors research notes: (1) http://www.darrelaustin.com/stuff/htmleditors.html (2) My notes. See above :) Good luck! - Krassy = Krassy Lyakov web.developer web: http://www.krassy.com/ blog: http://www.krassycandoit.com/blah/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
http://www.xstandard.com/ -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a browser based editor (preferably written in PHP) that will allow clients to update code themselves, but that outputs standards compliant XHTML? I am not interested in a full CMS, this is just for updating page snippets etc. I have come across WYSIWYG Pro which looks good. Thanks Sarah ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
Thanks Neerav. I think xstandard delivers XHTML 1.1 or strict. I'm using XHTML 1.0 transitional for most of my work. Any other ideas? http://www.xstandard.com/ -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a browser based editor (preferably written in PHP) that will allow clients to update code themselves, but that outputs standards compliant XHTML? I am not interested in a full CMS, this is just for updating page snippets etc. I have come across WYSIWYG Pro which looks good. Thanks Sarah ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4782 3104 mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au | web design | digital imaging | corporate logos | http://www.bureke.com.au | consultancy | e-commerce | usability reports | ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
Hi Sarah You could try this project at Mozdev.org - it's cross browser/platform (Mac, Linux, Win32 - anything that runs Mozilla). http://mozile.mozdev.org/ I had a go at it a few months ago, not sure how it would integrate with a data store. Probably just a matter of POSTing content to a server side script. Mozdev also provides a list in the Editing Tools category: http://www.mozdev.org/categories/editing.html cuneaform is quite interesting from the looks of it. If you are running something on a client machine then PHP will not work (it's a server side script) unless you have the PHP interpeter installed somehow in your browser (http://mozphp.mozdev.org/, http://www.thomas-schilz.de/MozPHP/) :D. HTH Cheers James Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a browser based editor (preferably written in PHP) that will allow clients to update code themselves, but that outputs standards compliant XHTML? I am not interested in a full CMS, this is just for updating page snippets etc. I have come across WYSIWYG Pro which looks good. Thanks Sarah ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
how about http://www.fckeditor.net/ then ? -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Thanks Neerav. I think xstandard delivers XHTML 1.1 or strict. I'm using XHTML 1.0 transitional for most of my work. Any other ideas? http://www.xstandard.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
When I was testing out the demo on the page, it started to place font tags in. Not sure if this would be the best choice in that case. Tim Hill Computer Associates Graphic Artist tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neerav Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2004 1:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor how about http://www.fckeditor.net/ then ? -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Thanks Neerav. I think xstandard delivers XHTML 1.1 or strict. I'm using XHTML 1.0 transitional for most of my work. Any other ideas? http://www.xstandard.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
For anyone following this thread I've found a list here (nothing suitable so far though): http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/cms/ttw/ttw.html Sarah Hi Sarah You could try this project at Mozdev.org - it's cross browser/platform (Mac, Linux, Win32 - anything that runs Mozilla). http://mozile.mozdev.org/ I had a go at it a few months ago, not sure how it would integrate with a data store. Probably just a matter of POSTing content to a server side script. Mozdev also provides a list in the Editing Tools category: http://www.mozdev.org/categories/editing.html cuneaform is quite interesting from the looks of it. If you are running something on a client machine then PHP will not work (it's a server side script) unless you have the PHP interpeter installed somehow in your browser (http://mozphp.mozdev.org/, http://www.thomas-schilz.de/MozPHP/) :D. HTH Cheers James Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a browser based editor (preferably written in PHP) that will allow clients to update code themselves, but that outputs standards compliant XHTML? I am not interested in a full CMS, this is just for updating page snippets etc. I have come across WYSIWYG Pro which looks good. Thanks Sarah ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- XERT Communications email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +61 2 4782 3104 mobile: 0438 017 416 http://www.xert.com.au | web design | digital imaging | corporate logos | http://www.bureke.com.au | consultancy | e-commerce | usability reports | ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Online browser XTHML editor
On 24/08/2004, at 1:21 PM, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Thanks Neerav. I think xstandard delivers XHTML 1.1 or strict. I'm using XHTML 1.0 transitional for most of my work. Any other ideas? How is that a problem? To the best of my knowledge, Strict is just a subset of Transitional, so there shouldn't be any compliance problems (especially for content related mark-up). I'd be very surprised if anything output by xstandard would not validate to XHTML Transitional. --- Justin French http://indent.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
