Brett Patterson wrote:
[...] Now I realize where most of my problems have stemmed from.
Note that nearly all such designer bugs will be caught if you follow
WCAG2 recommendations and resize text in a browser to at least 200% of
browser default. (Default is 16px on 96dpi screen resolution in
On Feb 4, 2009, at 3:02 AM, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Brett Patterson wrote:
[...] Now I realize where most of my problems have stemmed from.
Note that nearly all such designer bugs will be caught if you follow
WCAG2 recommendations and resize text in a browser to at least 200% of
browser
tee wrote:
IS 200% one time font size increasement or two?
200% is twice the default size, and the number of steps to get there
varies from browser to browsers.
Again: _default_ isn't whatever size you have declared in/for your
document, but the browsers' own defaults. This default font size
On 2009/02/04 09:19 (GMT-0500) Brett Patterson composed:
Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but in
browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to zoom in, and
I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200% font size increasement
one or
Brett Patterson wrote:
Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but
in browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to
zoom in, and I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200%
font size increasement one or two clicks?
Much more than that,
Not quite right im afraid. Patrick Lauke sent an email about this in
December that highlighted the Firefox zoom config as shown below:
-- Quote --
toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues, and this will show the various zoom
factors at each step. In my case (which should be the default) these are:
.3,
Okay, one quick question. You say 200% is twice the default size, but in
browsers like Firefox 3, there is only the (shortcut) Ctrl++ to zoom in, and
I cannot find the percentage of that zoom, so is 200% font size increasement
one or two clicks?
--
Brett P.
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:47 AM,
David Dixon wrote:
Not quite right im afraid. Patrick Lauke sent an email about this in
December that highlighted the Firefox zoom config as shown below:
-- Quote --
toolkit.zoomManager.zoomValues, and this will show the various zoom
factors at each step. In my case (which should be the
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Maybe someone can do a control check, measure the actual sizes on
screen for zoom values and mouse-wheel resizing steps for 'text
resizing' vs 'full page zoom' set at shown values, and let us know
the results.
Just to make sure we're resizing the same way: notice that I
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:37:19 -0800, tee wrote:
IS 200% one time font size increasement or two?
While FF 3 does not tell you, Firebug will show you the calculated
font-size in pixels after re-sizing. In the CSS panel, choose Options
Show computed style.
Hope this helps.
Cordially,
David
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On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 03:37:19 -0800, tee wrote:
IS 200% one time font size increasement or two?
While FF 3 does not tell you, Firebug will show you the calculated
font-size in pixels after re-sizing. In the CSS panel, choose Options
Show computed style.
Hope this helps.
Cordially,
David
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I do not use conditional comments myself as I have coded a css parser to
handle all these differences... but anyhow.. you could try and get Opera
looking correct and then use conditional comments as needed for the
other browsers. Just a suggestion, I am sure others here will know how
to target
Brett Patterson wrote:
If my site is visited in Firefox or Internet Explorer first, you can
see that everything aligns perfectly.
Not if that browser is called IE8, I'm afraid. IE8 agrees with
Opera10alpha.
http://ttcharriman.edu/TTCH07/iftprojects/brettpatterson/index.html
It's a
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net wrote:
David Dixon wrote:
Chomping at the bit to dismiss IE7 a little early aren't we Georg? :)
:-)
Look at IE7 from a designer/developer's point of view...
IE7 is dead - meaning: stable,
Ah, well, most people would consider
There are patches for Internet Explorer, though Microsoft calls them several
different things, it could be a Security Update for Internet Explorer, a
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer, or even a Security Update
for Windows (maybe worded differently on the last one). They just update
Christian Montoya wrote:
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Gunlaug Sørtun gunla...@c2i.net
IE7 is dead - meaning: stable,
Ah, well, most people would consider dead and stable to be two
entirely different things. Dead is more akin to abandoned or
unsupported.
OK, guess my choice of word
Brett Patterson wrote:
You should rethink the positioning method, and forget about
deviations
between browsers until you have stabilized it in one.
I do not understand this either, unless you are talking about using
margin as the positioning method. I have stabilized it one browser.
This
On 2009/02/03 15:13 (GMT-0500) Brett Patterson composed:
On 2009/02/03 19:54 (GMT+0100) Gunlaug Sørtun composed:
I really don't understand what you mean, when you say:
It's a designer-bug. Vertical position of the navigation relies entirely
on font size, which means it is all over the place
On 3/2/09 20:13, Brett Patterson wrote:
I really don't understand what you mean, when you say:
It's a designer-bug. Vertical position of the navigation relies entirely
on font size, which means it is all over the place in my browsers on
first load.
No two browsers calculate
Oh! I get it. Finally!!! :) It has always been my understanding, from some
books that I have read (like CIW's books, ciwcertified.com, which go into
some detail just not a lot) and a few others, that a pixel (in relation to
size, meaning if you looked at your screen closely the little squares on
Chomping at the bit to dismiss IE7 a little early aren't we Georg? :)
David
Gunlaug Sørtun wrote:
Besides: one should only target/hack dead browsers, like IE7 and older.
Targeting/hacking live browsers like Opera, Firefox, Safari etc. for
real, will only create maintenance-problems as new
I really don't understand what you mean, when you say:
It's a designer-bug. Vertical position of the navigation relies entirely
on font size, which means it is all over the place in my browsers on
first load.
No two browsers calculate font size exactly the same before rendering,
so relying
David Dixon wrote:
Chomping at the bit to dismiss IE7 a little early aren't we Georg? :)
:-)
Look at IE7 from a designer/developer's point of view...
IE7 is dead - meaning: stable, so if it acts up and there isn't a
suitable solution that all browsers can see, there's no harm whatsoever
in
On 2009/02/03 15:18 (GMT-0500) Brett Patterson composed:
There are patches for Internet Explorer, though Microsoft calls them several
different things, it could be a Security Update for Internet Explorer, a
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer, or even a Security Update
for
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