Joyce Evans wrote:
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf
This seems to be a good idea. Could you please give an example
where this
code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the
code?
You can set this as a http header using a server side script.
In
: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:20 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!
Jermayn,
Use a content-disposition header to force a download so that the user
doesn't have to have their browser potentially crippled by Acrobat and its
easy
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf
Joyce Evans wrote:
This seems to be a good idea. Could you please give an example where
this code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the
code? I’m having a “blank” moment. Thanks.
You would put that in your
On Jul 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf
Joyce Evans wrote:
This seems to be a good idea. Could you please give an example
where this code would be placed on the web page or how it would
fit into the code? I’m having a
Jermayn,
Use a content-disposition header to force a download so that the user
doesn't have to have their browser potentially crippled by Acrobat and
its easy to save for later viewing.
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf
Jermayn Parker wrote:
pdfs are not going to go
From memory adobe used to have a server you could buy that would do on
the fly conversion. Was quite exxy from memory and I wouldn't really
call it's output perfect.
Although the last time I looked into it was a few years ago so it might
not be available any more.
Brett.
Michael MD wrote:
I
Brett Sargeant wrote:
From memory adobe used to have a server you could buy that would do on
the fly conversion. Was quite exxy from memory and I wouldn't really
call it's output perfect.
Although the last time I looked into it was a few years ago so it might
not be available any more.
No.
PDF is a document file format, not a Web technolgy. Whilst you may say
that it's use on the Web has become standard that does not make it a Web
Standard (except by some tortuous abuse of semantics).
Adobe might be
On Fri, July 20, 2007 9:39 am, Alastair Campbell wrote:
On Fri, Jul 20,
Stuart Foulstone wrote:
PDF is a document file format, not a Web technolgy. Whilst you may say
that it's use on the Web has become standard that does not make it a Web
Standard (except by some tortuous abuse of semantics).
HTML is a document file format. While there may be an argument to be
Saying that PDF's are needed by Government Websites is a very circular
argument for allowing them - why are they needed? In my experience it is
only ever because of laziness or poorly designed workflows, and as you
point out, we all hate them, especially when they cannot be opened/read.
Mike
Michael
I understand your comments, however I think it would be very difficult for
governments other high volume publishers to remove the need for PDFs. Where
an audience must be reached by a variety of channels by both web and printed
media, it would be sensless to have to produce multiple sets
Told you - abuse of semantics to undermine Web Standards again:-)
--
Stuart Foulstone.
http://www.bigeasyweb.co.uk
BigEasy Web Design
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Rockingham Street
Sheffield
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Tel. 07751 413451
On Fri, July 20, 2007 11:06 am, Rob Crowther wrote:
Stuart Foulstone wrote:
PDF is a
HI,
A I've not read the entire thread, the suggestion may have been
offered. For Safari this extension allows the user to disable
Safari rendering of pdf:
SafariSpeed 2.0
http://pimpmysafari.com/plugins/
This should be a feature of of all UA's but this is a start.
CK
On Jul 20, 2007, at
On Jul 20, 2007, at 3:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saying that PDF's are needed by Government Websites is a very circular
argument for allowing them - why are they needed? In my experience
it is
only ever because of laziness or poorly designed workflows, and as you
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I love web standard and practice it with the best of my
ability,
Nice to know, very glad to hear it.
and I love PDF too - use it, create it, deliver it
So somewhat biased then...
PDF can be accessible, not in the sense of web
Tee G. Peng wrote:
Oh, although no statistic to proof it, but I do believe we manage to
save quite a few forests each year by having the PDFs be available on
one's website, on the internet.
?! You're entitled to your enthusiasm for PDF (which I don't share)
but this one escapes me -- how do
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saying that PDF's are needed by Government Websites is a very circular
argument for allowing them - why are they needed? In my experience it is
only ever because of laziness or poorly designed workflows, and as you
point out, we all hate them, especially when they cannot
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saying that PDF's are needed by Government Websites is a very circular
argument for allowing them - why are they needed
On Jul 20, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Hassan Schroeder wrote:
Oh, although no statistic to proof it, but I do believe we manage
to save quite a few forests each year by having the PDFs be
available on one's website, on the internet.
?! You're entitled to your enthusiasm for PDF (which I don't
Like I said, blame the messenger - blame the people who created the PDF
for not making it accssible and easy for the users. Don't blame the PDF
itself - it's innocent and in fact in my opinion, a beneficial
technology Adobe has invented.
My earlier complaint was not about whether not pdf
I, for one am enjoying this discussion :)
My 2c:
1) Let the user know it's a PDF *and* what size the PDF is, eg by putting
something like (12Kb PDF) beside the link. I'm on dial up at home and it grates
my backside when sites don't let me know how big the file is
2) If you can, use
I think of your 5 steps, number one is the most practable...
the others are good in a 'perfect' world but this aint and if most
other gov sites are like mine (new design coming tom), they will not
happen.
All of my pdfs are direct from the different areas and so I dont create
the pdfs and we
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