On Jul 20, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Hassan Schroeder wrote:


Oh, although no statistic to proof it, but I do believe we manage to save quite a few forests each year by having the PDFs be available on one's website, on the internet.

?! You're entitled to your enthusiasm for PDF (which I don't share)
but this one escapes me -- how do you figure?

This is heading a OT direction I am afraid.
I should add the 'on one's website, over the internet, via email'

Will, take myself for example, for print/web design services, I don't send paper invoice unless client specifically requested; I have another business on the side that requires making catalogs - each copy of color catalog cost me US$1.75 (17 x 11 by 16 pages), and I print some 500 copies a year, most of them are wasted, go directly into trash bin even though I don't send them unless a request catalog is made via web form /telephone/ fax. I have the catalog in PDF version available for download from my website and always encourage people who requested the catalog to download the PDF version instead. And on the printed catalog I had it printed "help saves a tree and help us save our cost, please download our catalog at www.site.com/ catalog".

Although I am environmental conscious and make it a practice in my daily lives but It will be hypocritical to tell people 'help saves a tree, please download catalog at ....".

I don't print out anything (PDF) unless necessary; I don't request printed material unless absolutely necessary, many things I needed for references purposes for me to conduct my business can be obtained on the internet in PDF, not just forms. I work very hard to try to make a paperless home office - impossible but I make great effort to reduce the use of paper. I don't have my bank sends paper statement to me via mail each month and other services I subscribed to that are not technologically savvy or lack of resources to make them HTML (either this option is available thing can goes wrong and you will have another reason to blame the web) but PDF only. The incoming fax I received are also in PDF. Everthing is in PDF

I do not work in papermill industry but my previous life as a print designer and the business I do now and the awareness I have as to how we mindlessly polluting our enviornment, require me to know a lot about how paper being made, what materials are made of, what chemicals are used and how much virgin fabric are used for the paper, where the source comes from and are the fabric that made of 100% pure white shining glossy paper from the tree that takes decade to grow or corps that are farmed and regenerated annually etc... You feel good about your country has a toughest law in protecting forests and preventing certain industries from destroying the beautiful forest in your own land, but perhaps what you don't know is, your people (my people) go to other countries that have less tougher law or no law in protecting the forests, exploiting others' beautiful forests and lands so that you can have beautiful gift paperwrap for birthdays, for Chistmas, and for your shning glossy paper prensation that you present to your clients.

Chances are, any information that is offered as a PDF option for download over the internet, help saves energies/resources, less pollutions and help saves a tree one way or the other. If 50% of the people that reqeusted catalog, forms last year from me, from my clients, from any government websites opted for PDF version, everyone wins to some extend.

Like I said, blame the messenger - blame the people who created the PDF for not making it accssible and easy for the users. Don't blame the PDF itself - it's innocent and in fact in my opinion, a beneficial technology Adobe has invented.

tee



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