Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
I have tried this option and it works on ONE image only, having more than one PNG does not give transparency, so its not a good solution either... I will just go back to gifs and make a background of the image behind to cut the out line with expand 1px, that always work and save struggling time with incompetent web browsers.. When will we ever have some standards and make websites for todays users!!! Thanks all anyways Michael Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote: Even that site resource advise's to use the htc approach. I use this on a number of website and it works really well. I attach it to a style sheet for IE6 or below that way my CSS still passes validation. http://bjorkoy.com/past/2007/4/8/the_easiest_way_to_png/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens-Uwe Korff Sent: 17 June 2008 00:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ?? Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I know it's a rather old thread but I just came across a nice solution which does not even need an iepngfix.htc Javascript. One template I work on required a semitransparent background. I have it working nicely cross-browser (FF, IE6, IE7) with the following: CSS: .className {background:transparent url('img/707070_90pc.png') repeat 0 0} /* The 'pc' indicates the opacity, 90% here */ * html .className {background:none;filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoad er(enabled=true, sizingMethod=scale, src='css/skin-travel/img/707070_90pc.png')} The first line if for standards-compliant browsers, the second one for IE6 only. Image: You'll also need the PNG image. Here's the magic: Usually a PNG image used with the proprietary filter overlays any links and renders them unclickable. But I found a website [1] which offers a fix: You have to use a certain image size, then IE6 allows clickable links. So I made the PNG just 10x2 pixels (wXh). That's it. The site's not live yet, so I cannot offer a link. Cheers, Jens [1] http://www.daltonlp.com/view/217 The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:38:21 +0300, Michael Persson wrote: I have tried this option and it works on ONE image only, having more than one PNG does not give transparency, so its not a good solution either... I will just go back to gifs and make a background of the image behind to cut the out line with expand 1px, that always work and save struggling time with incompetent web browsers.. Not sure exactly what you are trying to achieve here Michael. But if you are happy using the limited 8-bit palette of GIFs, you might consider 8-bit PNGs instead. They are a lot more versatile, as this Sitepoint article explains: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/20/making-ie6-friendly-png8-images/ Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I know it's a rather old thread but I just came across a nice solution which does not even need an iepngfix.htc Javascript. One template I work on required a semitransparent background. I have it working nicely cross-browser (FF, IE6, IE7) with the following: CSS: .className {background:transparent url('img/707070_90pc.png') repeat 0 0} /* The 'pc' indicates the opacity, 90% here */ * html .className {background:none;filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoad er(enabled=true, sizingMethod=scale, src='css/skin-travel/img/707070_90pc.png')} The first line if for standards-compliant browsers, the second one for IE6 only. Image: You'll also need the PNG image. Here's the magic: Usually a PNG image used with the proprietary filter overlays any links and renders them unclickable. But I found a website [1] which offers a fix: You have to use a certain image size, then IE6 allows clickable links. So I made the PNG just 10x2 pixels (wXh). That's it. The site's not live yet, so I cannot offer a link. Cheers, Jens [1] http://www.daltonlp.com/view/217 The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
Even that site resource advise's to use the htc approach. I use this on a number of website and it works really well. I attach it to a style sheet for IE6 or below that way my CSS still passes validation. http://bjorkoy.com/past/2007/4/8/the_easiest_way_to_png/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens-Uwe Korff Sent: 17 June 2008 00:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ?? Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I know it's a rather old thread but I just came across a nice solution which does not even need an iepngfix.htc Javascript. One template I work on required a semitransparent background. I have it working nicely cross-browser (FF, IE6, IE7) with the following: CSS: .className {background:transparent url('img/707070_90pc.png') repeat 0 0} /* The 'pc' indicates the opacity, 90% here */ * html .className {background:none;filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.AlphaImageLoad er(enabled=true, sizingMethod=scale, src='css/skin-travel/img/707070_90pc.png')} The first line if for standards-compliant browsers, the second one for IE6 only. Image: You'll also need the PNG image. Here's the magic: Usually a PNG image used with the proprietary filter overlays any links and renders them unclickable. But I found a website [1] which offers a fix: You have to use a certain image size, then IE6 allows clickable links. So I made the PNG just 10x2 pixels (wXh). That's it. The site's not live yet, so I cannot offer a link. Cheers, Jens [1] http://www.daltonlp.com/view/217 The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1504 - Release Date: 15/06/2008 17:52 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
... and all of them ultimately rely on AlphaImageLoader, which (as I mentioned elsewhere) runs the risk of the sort of problems discussed at http://blogs.cozi.com/tech/2008/03/transparent-png.html?cid=106552420 - Korny On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Jens-Uwe Korff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attach [the htc approach ] to a style sheet for IE6 or below[,] that way my CSS still passes validation. Good point which I didn't mention explicitly. However, not using the HTC approach reduces your HTTP requests by one which might be interesting in terms of optimising your site for speed. Cheers, Jens The information contained in this e-mail message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail or any attached files is unauthorised. This e-mail is subject to copyright. No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the written consent of the copyright owner. If you have received this e-mail in error please advise the sender immediately by return e-mail or telephone and delete all copies. Fairfax does not guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. Internet communications are not secure, therefore Fairfax does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
I used a javascript call IE7. And it works in IE6. http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/ On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
http://spirit.q9-gaming.com/en/?p=37 A re-arranged article about that. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Caleb Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used a javascript call IE7. And it works in IE6. http://code.google.com/p/ie7-js/ On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- http://spirit.q9-gaming.com/en/ Spirit's Inside: Blog Design *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
SuperSleigh seems to use a very similar method to iepngfix.htc (which I think Michael indicated he is using?) - we're using iepngfix and it seems to handle most situations, though both solutions are limited to what the microsoft AlphaImageLoader filter can do. But yes, there are some tricky situations - especially if you are building content via javascript or ajax. And as far as I can tell setting opacity (other than 1 or 0) on a transparent png just doesn't work at all. - Korny On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Andrew McGrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: theres no clean solution that i'm aware of...but this is a common issue, so i'm certain there is plenty of tips and tricks out there to help you get around the problem you are faced with. http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6 the above link provides some /interesting/ info, i don't claim to know a lot about this topic in particular however this page essentially summarized what i already knew...so maybe it will help. Good luck! 2008/6/10 Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com kornys at gmail dot com on google chat -- kornys on skype we do what we must, because we can *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
The linked article at http://blogs.cozi.com/tech/2008/03/transparent-png.html?cid=106552420 is especially scary - AlphaImageLoader causing browser crashes? Ow. And those guys had direct contacts inside Microsoft. I'm not completely sure of the benefit of using png8 over using png32 for all browsers, and using gifs for ie6 and below. It is a tad more work to do ie6-specific style sheets and ie6-specific images; but presumably the png32 images will look nicer for all other users. YMMV of course. - Korny On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 4:11 PM, David Hucklesby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:49:43 +0100, Stewart Griffiths wrote: However, within Fireworks you can also export png's as a png8, which provides a palette based colour model (like gif's) and which many believe only offers a 1 bit transparency option. However, if we play with some of the settings we are able to offer similar semi- transparency colors as a png32. Yes. More on that technique here: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/ ... with some ideas for improving appearance in IE 6 here: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/20/making-ie6-friendly-png8-images/ Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Kornelis Sietsma korny at my surname dot com kornys at gmail dot com on google chat -- kornys on skype we do what we must, because we can *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:49:43 +0100, Stewart Griffiths wrote: However, within Fireworks you can also export png's as a png8, which provides a palette based colour model (like gif's) and which many believe only offers a 1 bit transparency option. However, if we play with some of the settings we are able to offer similar semi- transparency colors as a png32. Yes. More on that technique here: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/09/18/png8-the-clear-winner/ ... with some ideas for improving appearance in IE 6 here: http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2008/03/20/making-ie6-friendly-png8-images/ Cordially, David -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've used this script without much trouble for quite a while. As for the 800x600 thread. I've been interested in reading the replies and thank everyone responding to my thread. I asked because I was making a fixed width layout which was looking very odd on my computer when made to fix for an 800x600 and my screen being a wide screen. Some of you might be glad to know I've since started trying to make it fluid width but it's been great to read all the replies and get the opinion of everyone. IceKat. PNG Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm Michael Persson wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
theres no clean solution that i'm aware of...but this is a common issue, so i'm certain there is plenty of tips and tricks out there to help you get around the problem you are faced with. http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6 the above link provides some /interesting/ info, i don't claim to know a lot about this topic in particular however this page essentially summarized what i already knew...so maybe it will help. Good luck! 2008/6/10 Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
There is a way to produce portable network graphics (png's) so that they render correctly across all browsers without the need to employ complicated hacks and ie filter-based solutionshttp://www.w3.org/TR/PNG-DataRep.html#DR.Alpha-channelor heavy javascript files, such as the twin helixhttp://www.thewebsqueeze.com/forum/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.twinhelix.com%2Fcss%2Fiepngfix%2Fapproach or the supersleighthttp://www.thewebsqueeze.com/forum/redirect.php?url=http%3A%2F%2F24ways.org%2F2007%2Fsupersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6 . Most times when a png is exported it is done so as a png32, which provides lossless compression and allows for more complex settings. All the goodies we love when designing a site. However, within Fireworks you can also export png's as a png8, which provides a palette based colour model (like gif's) and which many believe only offers a 1 bit transparency option. However, if we play with some of the settings we are able to offer similar semi-transparency colors as a png32. So if you use the export wizard and set it to export as png8 with indexed transparency, you will see the palette colours have been flattened and you are offered one, single transparent colour. However, if you change these settings to alpha transparency, you will notice a few small chunks cut out of the some of the palette colours. These are the new semi-transparent colours. The only downside is that complicated fade effects on images are not seen on IE5.5 6, but it still is a transparent image. This works for IE5.5 and above (I haven't tested lower than that), FF, Safari and Opera, so it's a winner all round. Also, the generated image files are smaller, which will increase delivery time, and , more importantly, there is no need to implement hacks, javascript files or any other third party coding, making the total delivery package smaller and therefore increasing the speed of your site. Hope the above helps you all. I am planning on writing an article on the web design forum I moderate ( www.webforumz.com) around this, once complete I shall let you know so you can bookmark it for future reference. Stew 2008/6/10 IceKat [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've used this script without much trouble for quite a while. As for the 800x600 thread. I've been interested in reading the replies and thank everyone responding to my thread. I asked because I was making a fixed width layout which was looking very odd on my computer when made to fix for an 800x600 and my screen being a wide screen. Some of you might be glad to know I've since started trying to make it fluid width but it's been great to read all the replies and get the opinion of everyone. IceKat. PNG Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm Michael Persson wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
I need a function of a link that one KNOWS is working... Michael IceKat wrote: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've used this script without much trouble for quite a while. As for the 800x600 thread. I've been interested in reading the replies and thank everyone responding to my thread. I asked because I was making a fixed width layout which was looking very odd on my computer when made to fix for an 800x600 and my screen being a wide screen. Some of you might be glad to know I've since started trying to make it fluid width but it's been great to read all the replies and get the opinion of everyone. IceKat. PNG Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm Michael Persson wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
Hi there Michael, Had the same problem a while back and, while I can't give you the exact line of code that makes it work, the paragraph on this page seems to display properly in IE6 (as well as all other major browsers): http://www.meccompany.com.au/aboutUs.php I think it has something to do whether the element is floated or not Andrew McGrath wrote: theres no clean solution that i'm aware of...but this is a common issue, so i'm certain there is plenty of tips and tricks out there to help you get around the problem you are faced with. http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6 the above link provides some /interesting/ info, i don't claim to know a lot about this topic in particular however this page essentially summarized what i already knew...so maybe it will help. Good luck! 2008/6/10 Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Christian Fagan Fagan Design fagandesign.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
I use this: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/ On Jun 10, 2008, at 15:52, Michael Persson wrote: I need a function of a link that one KNOWS is working... Michael IceKat wrote: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've used this script without much trouble for quite a while. As for the 800x600 thread. I've been interested in reading the replies and thank everyone responding to my thread. I asked because I was making a fixed width layout which was looking very odd on my computer when made to fix for an 800x600 and my screen being a wide screen. Some of you might be glad to know I've since started trying to make it fluid width but it's been great to read all the replies and get the opinion of everyone. IceKat. PNG Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm Michael Persson wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ??
I've used superslieight to great success. You see a moment of grey border as the page loads in IE6 but after that it renders fine. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew McGrath Sent: 10 June 2008 13:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6 ?? theres no clean solution that i'm aware of...but this is a common issue, so i'm certain there is plenty of tips and tricks out there to help you get around the problem you are faced with. http://24ways.org/2007/supersleight-transparent-png-in-ie6 the above link provides some /interesting/ info, i don't claim to know a lot about this topic in particular however this page essentially summarized what i already knew...so maybe it will help. Good luck! 2008/6/10 Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] transparency, png IE6?? Screen Resolution
Here you are Michael: http://www.meccompany.com.au/aboutUs.php Don't ask me how but it works Quoting Michael Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I need a function of a link that one KNOWS is working... Michael IceKat wrote: Hey, I recently looked this up for someone else. I've found this link (below) to work well for regular images but don't seem to do much for background images pulled in with CSS. However having said that I've used this script without much trouble for quite a while. As for the 800x600 thread. I've been interested in reading the replies and thank everyone responding to my thread. I asked because I was making a fixed width layout which was looking very odd on my computer when made to fix for an 800x600 and my screen being a wide screen. Some of you might be glad to know I've since started trying to make it fluid width but it's been great to read all the replies and get the opinion of everyone. IceKat. PNG Link: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bobosola/pnghowto.htm Michael Persson wrote: HI people, I have tried to not use transparency for years as it is not working IE6 properly. I have not a situation where i need it and there is no way out, I have tried some tricks and there are some that works half way to the full solution. There is a solution with a js file called htc somethnig where i get the transparency working but only in one of the images i need them to appear. Does anyone have a clever full functional solution for this transparency crap to make work ? I have grey hair already but its starting to fall of soon... Michael in Athens *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***