Thanks for the information Wolfgang.
I did not mean to label DX as "bad guys". When DX stations show up using
clones it only causes confusion. For me, it's hard to tell. Luckily many
DXpeditions post their intentions on web pages saying if they are using Fox
and Hound or not. Today HR5/F2JD even
The double messages in blue are most definitely F/H. That's the only way you
squeeze two messages in one transmit slot. Therefore the other messages are
also Fox.
Perhaps Joe could comment on this...but it does appear all messages still get
decoded even if you're not in Hound mode.
Mike
I've worked XR0ZRC four times on FT8 and did not use F/H at any time. So unless
it's possible to work Foxes and not use F/H or unless they have changed their
mode of operation midstream, I don't believe this is F/H.
Could be. I don't know.
This is my point. It's too hard to tell. There's
The red is simply 2 channels of F/H with only one message in each. The blue is
2 channels each having 2 messages.Therefore they are both F/H. MSHV does not
do F/H. They do multi-channel single message which is compatible with standard
FT8.
de Mike W9MDB
On Friday, March 22, 2019,
On 3/22/19 at 11:19 AM, aa...@bellsouth.net (Don AA5AU) wrote:
Also, it would be nice if the F/H transmit timer for Hounds
could be extended longer than 2 minutes. Five minutes seems
more appropriate.
The advantage of a short timeout is that perhaps the reason you
aren't getting through is
Thanks Patrick, but I don't know that what you say is true. Here is a
screenshot from XR0ZRC which shows a couple of transmissions.
example2.jpg
The transmission outlined in red seems like MSHV but the transmission in blue
looks like F/H?
I think both are MSHV?
Don AA5AU
On 3/22/2019 12:58 PM, Wolfgang wrote:
In SSB the 'bad guys' are the ones yelling endless, even if they
don't hear the DX. And now in FT8 we try to blame the DX beeing
'the 'bad guys' ??? Chasing DX is like a race, we have some
winners and some... who do not make it;-)
Btw., there is a lot of
Hello Don,
in the std. release of JTDX the 'Fox' mode is disabled since many
releases, only 'Hound' can be enabled! If anyone compiles from source,
he could change anything of any of the named packages - WSJT-X, JTDX
or MSHV. But I don't think the current 'DX' daring to do so. Looks
like, the
Hi Don,
Only MSHV have implemented multi answering protocol or so called F/H.
JTDX doesnt have Fox mode at all, but can work/call both WSJT-X or MSHV
Foxes!
Simple, MSHV in most cases Run a Fox in both periods in the middle of the
spectrum. Each slot send only one specific message to a caller.
I've not run MSHV or JTDX on FT8 yet. My preference is WSJT-X so I don't know
how to spot a DX station running one of these clones. Is there a way to tell
what the DX station is using (when using multiple streams)?
Today I had a difficult time working 5T5PA. Nearly all spots said he was
running
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