Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Larry B. via wsjt-devel
My guess, after many years of FD, is that MOST operators would have little idea of what ANY indication of a clock-sync issue means. Many ops are sitting down operating for the first time, getting their feet wet with (NOT A CONTEST) Field Day. PLUS, as has been noted, many FD sites DO NOT have

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Jim Shorney
You know, you can set a computer clock with WWV +/- propagation delay and muscle reaction time. It works and is very much like what one might do in the field on a bad day. Don't over think it. 73 -Jim NU0C On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 18:15:00 -0400 Topher Petty wrote: > Example from a quick search:

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Topher Petty
Example from a quick search: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Aviation-Vehicle-Positioning-Receiver-G-MOUSE-Glonass-Navigation-USB-GPS-Module-Dongle-Tracking-Replacement-Alarm-Car/33006770294.html 73 de AI8W, Chris On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 6:11 PM Topher Petty wrote: > GPSD (Linux and OSX should

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Topher Petty
GPSD (Linux and OSX should be able to run this) can sync time to the computer from a GPS receiver... I've used that in the past on where internet access is problematic and time sync was critical. A cheap USB GPS unit could then be purchased (I've seen them as low as $5 on US sites, and around $2 on

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Mike Lewis
You could use the DT of the received stations to adjust the clock. Select a group with the largest agreement within a narrow range of a few tenths of a second, and the program, or a program, can offer to adjust the time into that range. Sort of like a wire protocol that derives its own clock sy

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Jim Jennings
When one of our stations at Field Day was set up for FT8, it became apparent that a system time sync was needed before it could be used. One of our participants was able to provide a NTP sync with his smart phone, and W6AF (2A SV) managed a couple dozen contacts on 20 Meters with five watts (Y

Re: [wsjt-devel] Initial thoughts on FT8 and FD

2019-06-23 Thread VE3FBZ
Perhaps drop the grid in FD mode and put in the Class letter. I strongly support this modification. This would allow us to select wanted/require call to complete our maps etc. Regards and 73s VE3FBZ London Amateur Radio Club www.larc.ca > On Jun 22, 2019, at 16:57, WB5JJJ wrote: > > I

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Of all the DT drifeters I saw not one was running JTAlert. Then again highlighting the DT values > 0.5 seconds might be a better solution though once you get your clock set the I find the highlighting irritating as all highlight should be calling your attention to something. And based on watching

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread August Treubig
JTAlert already does that. Highlights in red. Aug AG5AT Sent from my iPad > On Jun 23, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Gary Hinson wrote: > > Instead of “Your clock is off” (which, to some, may mean “Your clock is > turned off”) I suggest “Your clock is wrong” or better still the > action-oriented “Che

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread WB5JJJ
The latest JTAlert has this feature. You can set several DT error time limits to be highlighted in red in the WSJTx Band Activity window of the drifting station's DT. If a station sees lots of red in the DT column, hopefully they would take notice and figure out they are out of sync. WB5JJJ - Ge

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Gary Hinson
Instead of “Your clock is off” (which, to some, may mean “Your clock is turned off”) I suggest “Your clock is wrong” or better still the action-oriented “Check your clock”. And the proposed 3 out of 5 decodes being more than half a second wrong risks triggering the message far too often when

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Enrique Scheuer
Good idea to create a msg to those out of clock ..repeatedly it can be seen writing it on the screen. 73 de Enrique PY2CP Em dom, 23 de jun de 2019 13:34, Matthew Miller escreveu: > That does seem like it could be useful, I would imagine the problem is > compounded by field day people in parks

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Matthew Miller
That does seem like it could be useful, I would imagine the problem is compounded by field day people in parks probably sync their clock before leaving and that's it. I do find it interesting sync thru my 4G connection in this park NTP estimates less delay and jitter than on my normal cable ISP

Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Al Pawlowski
Seems like the RC version color highlighting of excessive dt’s should do the job once it becomes the stable release. BTW, our club (W6JU) had a GPS NTP server incorporated in the N3FJP logging server we used and that worked really well - as did the JTAlert N3FJP auto-logging. Only thing we noti

[wsjt-devel] rc7 and Call 1st - Yes, it's still active

2019-06-23 Thread WB5JJJ
Field Day Configuration. Still checking out rc7 since it hasn't locked out so far. So why not run with it? For some reason in FT8 and calling CQ, even though Call 1st is UNCHECKED, about every other sequence an automatic response will be generated to a random station calling me. Sometimes this

Re: [wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Claude Frantz
On 6/23/19 12:53 PM, Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH wrote: Hi Palle, Claude, at present this is not unwanted switching to EU VHF mode, but the naming or wording of what is happening is misleading. The situation seems to be that you work a station that is in a contest requiring an exchange of a s

[wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem

2019-06-23 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
I've seen about 2 dozen clubs doing Field Day where their clocks are off. We need to provide an indication in WSJT-X when clocks are off like this. With concurrence I can do a patch for thismy idea is this. At least 5 decodes where 60% or more > 0.5 seconds is an indication of bad timing.A mes

Re: [wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Palle Preben-Hansen, OZ1RH
Claude, at present this is not unwanted switching to EU VHF mode, but the naming or wording of what is happening is misleading. The situation seems to be that you work a station that is in a contest requiring an exchange of a serial number and/or the full locator (a 6-digit locator). In order to r

Re: [wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Claude Frantz
On 6/23/19 10:26 AM, Reino Talarmo wrote: Returning to the STATE value that now contains Maidenhead locator as an EU VHF contest exchange information. I also think that it is a mistake to use the STATE field for that purpose. We have and that now contains the same information. Perhaps the use o

Re: [wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Reino Talarmo
Returning to the STATE value that now contains Maidenhead locator as an EU VHF contest exchange information. I also think that it is a mistake to use the STATE field for that purpose. We have and that now contains the same information. Perhaps the use of the STATE field in the EU VHF contest is j

Re: [wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Claude Frantz
On 6/23/19 9:32 AM, Reino Talarmo wrote: 190622_095330 7.074 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1480 HB9CGH DJ0OT -04 190622_095400 7.074 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1480 HB9CGH R 550001 JN58TC Some observations: 55 and 55 were not exchanged in the QSO and they are typical FONE reports. According to the ADIF

Re: [wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Reino Talarmo
>190622_095330 7.074 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1480 HB9CGH DJ0OT -04 190622_095400 7.074 Tx FT8 0 0.0 1480 HB9CGH R 550001 JN58TC >Some observations: 55 and 55 were not exchanged in the QSO and they are typical FONE reports. According to the ADIF specs, I consider JN36RW as not valid. Th

[wsjt-devel] Unwanted automatic switching to contest mode

2019-06-23 Thread Claude Frantz
Hi all, Please allow me to report about an unusual behaviour which I have observed using 2.0.1. Settings -> advanced -> special operating activity -> OFF While operating in the usual way, on the 40 m band in FT8 mode, my station was called and the mode switched automatically to the EU VHF c