GPSD (Linux and OSX should be able to run this) can sync time to the
computer from a GPS receiver... I've used that in the past on where
internet access is problematic and time sync was critical. A cheap USB GPS
unit could then be purchased (I've seen them as low as $5 on US sites, and
around $2 on alibaba/aliexpress) for that purpose. Plug in the GPS, run
GPSD, sync, go.

It'd be very difficult for a computer to be off on its dT if it was
continually syncing time to the GPS satellites...

There's an old saying in IT.. something about programming idiot-proof
software causing bigger idiots to be created... I forget the exact wording.

73 de AI8W, Chris

On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 5:57 PM Mike Lewis <k7...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You could use the DT of the received stations to adjust the clock.
>
>
>
> Select a group with the largest agreement within a narrow range of a few
> tenths of a second, and the program, or a program, can offer to adjust the
> time into that range.  Sort of like a wire protocol that derives its own
> clock sync from the data stream.  The change mechanism could be a
> calculation or a manual slider.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jim Jennings <w...@comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2019 14:15
> *To:* Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com>; WSJT software development <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem
>
>
>
> When one of our stations at Field Day was set up for FT8, it became
> apparent that a system time sync was needed before it could be used.  One
> of our participants was able to provide a NTP sync with his smart phone,
> and W6AF (2A SV) managed a couple  dozen contacts on 20 Meters with five
> watts (Yaesu FT-817) into a low dipole.  What about a location where
> cellular or WiFi coverage is unavailable?
>
>
>
> VK4ADC’s free program GPS2Time can synchronize a computer’s system clock
> using a GPS set with NMEA serial output (I have two hand held Garmins that
> do this) through a COM port.  The website is:
>
> https://www.vk4adc.com/web/software-projects/55-vk4adc-utils/181-gps2time.
> If I had known about this prior to Field Day, I would have brought the
> program and the essential items to try it.
>
>
>
> Jim, W7XZ
>
>
>
> PS  FT8 was a big hit with the ops who tried it for the first time.
>
> *From:* Black Michael via wsjt-devel
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 23, 2019 05:27
>
> *To:* WSJT Software Development
>
> *Cc:* Black Michael
>
> *Subject:* [wsjt-devel] Field Day time problem
>
>
>
> I've seen about 2 dozen clubs doing Field Day where their clocks are off.
>
>
>
> We need to provide an indication in WSJT-X when clocks are off like this.
>
>
>
> With concurrence I can do a patch for this....my idea is this.
>
>
>
> At least 5 decodes where 60% or more > 0.5 seconds is an indication of bad
> timing.
>
> A message would be put in the Rx Frequency window "Your clock is off...see
> help".  With appropriate references in the Help to search "your clock is
> off" and time solutions.
>
>
>
> This doesn't cover the case where their clock is way off as they won't see
> any decodes.  The only solution for that would be doing a time query from a
> known source and I don't think we want to go that route.
>
>
>
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>
>
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