Re: [wsjt-devel] Cannot clone Hamlib fork

2023-12-10 Thread Daniel Uppström via wsjt-devel
Ok I see. Then someone better update the info in the INSTALL file (https://sourceforge.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx/ci/master/tree/INSTALL): The Hamlib library is required. Currently WSJT-X needs to be built using a forked version of the Hamlib git master. This fork contains patches not yet accepted by

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread Joe Fleagle via wsjt-devel
Thanks for the explanation Joe. I had not seen that before. Signals do not affect the noise estimate which was one of the answers I was looking for. Joe > On Dec 10, 2023, at 11:21, Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel > wrote: > > Hi Joe, > >> On 12/9/2023 9:56 PM, w0fy--- via wsjt-devel wrote: >>

Re: [wsjt-devel] Cannot clone Hamlib fork

2023-12-10 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
No...that particular fork was created when Hamlib was not getting updated. Mike W9MDB On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 02:27:28 PM CST, Daniel Uppström wrote: Oh, that's unfortunate. I thought this particular fork was necessary for WSJT-X and not the main branch of Hamlib?

Re: [wsjt-devel] Cannot clone Hamlib fork

2023-12-10 Thread Daniel Uppström via wsjt-devel
Oh, that's unfortunate. I thought this particular fork was necessary for WSJT-X and not the main branch of Hamlib? /SM6VFZ Den sön 10 dec. 2023 19:22Black Michael via wsjt-devel < wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> skrev: > Since Bill is silent key that repository has been removed. > > The

Re: [wsjt-devel] Cannot clone Hamlib fork

2023-12-10 Thread Black Michael via wsjt-devel
Since Bill is silent key that repository has been removed. The permanent home of Hamlib is here: https://github.com/Hamlib/Hamlib Mike W9MDB On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 02:33:42 PM CST, Daniel Uppström via wsjt-devel wrote: Hi, When trying to build WSJT-X from source these

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel
Hi Joe, On 12/9/2023 9:56 PM, w0fy--- via wsjt-devel wrote: Been wondering how WSJT-X generates the noise power estimate it uses to calculate SNR for each FT8 signal.  Does it simply collect all the signals and noise over the bandwidth selected on the waterfall and call that the noise power

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread w0fy--- via wsjt-devel
Thanks for comments Reino and Andy. My 20 dB degradation number was based on an actual measurement using FM mode on my radio. Basically injected a signal into the antenna feedline which was terminated with a 50 ohm load. Measured the receiver quieting sensitivity, then repeated the

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel
Reino, I really have no data to compare as you suggest, and the results are purely annecdotal.  The way this got started was that on 2 meters I suffer from local rfi, usually these are suspected to be chargers in the vicinity.  In engaging filters I noticed the rfi become enhanced, by

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Hi Andy, Interesting approach. But how you know that it really enhanced the signal detection? The wanted signal is now close the wanted signal and that may disturb the S/N calculation and you will see a better S/N values with your method without a real better sensitivity. Possibly the only

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel
Joe, Just a comment here.  I use FT8 frequently and almost always on 2 meters.  My interest is in weak signals.  I use a Omni VII here, with a transverter.  I have had some luck using my notch filter on very weak FT8signals.  Setting the notch width at about 75hz, I have been using the edge of

Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates

2023-12-10 Thread Reino Talarmo via wsjt-devel
Hi Joe, Some quick comments in-line. 73, Reino OH3mA > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 4:56 AM > Subject: [wsjt-devel] WSJT noise estimates > Been wondering how WSJT-X generates the noise power estimate it uses to calculate SNR for each FT8 signal.  Does it simply collect all the signals and