Hi Joe,

On 12/9/2023 9:56 PM, w0fy--- via wsjt-devel wrote:
Been wondering how WSJT-X generates the noise power estimate it uses to calculate SNR for each FT8 signal.  Does it simply collect all the signals and noise over the bandwidth selected on the waterfall and call that the noise power level or does it take a quick snapshot of  the background noise level during the brief quiet period at the end of each 15 second FT8 sequence? Or is it more complicated than that?

This question has been asked and answered many times on this and similar forums. WSJT-X measures noise power by computing the spectrum of the receiver's output, averaged over the reception interval, and fitting a baseline to the regions that have no discernible signal present. The resulting value -- effectively a noise power density, or power per unit bandwidth -- is then scaled to yield noise power in 2500 Hz bandwidth.

I am plagued with a S2 -S3 noise level on 6 meters nearly all the time that if not AWGN is pretty close to it.  10 meters is even worse. The DSP noise blanker in my TS590 will reduce it slightly. I estimate this is degrading my ability to decode FT8 signals on 6 by nearly 20 dB compared to the noise level generated by a 50 ohm resistor.  I don’t use an LNA ahead of the radio – would be pointless.  I don’t use the noise reduction feature in the radio either as it tends to lose very weak signals completely.

It's OK to use your receiver's noise blanker to remove impulsive noise.

Do NOT use "noise reduction" features, and do NOT use a receiver bandwidth narrower than about 2.5 kHz. Wider bandwidths are even better, up to 4 or 5 kHz. WSJT-X does all necessary narrow-band filtering in software.

        -- 73, Joe, K1JT


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