Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Am 13.02.2012 11:02, schrieb Sören Plönnigs: is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package? # grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system(kdialog --error \@line[1]\); It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde environment. Disclaimer: I am not one of the coders. While I'm currently using KDE (and Trinity), I'm absolutely with you that this shouldn't be hard-coded. And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that). That was quite a while ago, though, so I don't exactly remember where that was. It could have been in the Terminate or Suspend dialog on a FreeNX system. Or it was one of the system configuration menus in KNOPPIX (like where you could change network settings or install the system to disk). Also, googling turned up http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ssft Maybe this helps as a starting point for the coders involved? -Stefan ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Hi List, Another way to find out which environment is present is with wmctrl. This utitlity gives information on the current window manager and could be used as a basis to determine the dialog that is to be shown. Cheers, DKniep -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Aan:x2go-dev@lists.berlios.de; Van:newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de Verzonden:ma 13-02-2012 12:01 Onderwerp:Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog Am 13.02.2012 11:02, schrieb Sören Plönnigs: is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package? # grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system(kdialog --error \@line[1]\); It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde environment. Disclaimer: I am not one of the coders. While I'm currently using KDE (and Trinity), I'm absolutely with you that this shouldn't be hard-coded. And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that). That was quite a while ago, though, so I don't exactly remember where that was. It could have been in the Terminate or Suspend dialog on a FreeNX system. Or it was one of the system configuration menus in KNOPPIX (like where you could change network settings or install the system to disk). Also, googling turned up http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/ssft Maybe this helps as a starting point for the coders involved? -Stefan ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev !DSPAM:4f38f4ed15824979378548! ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
On 2012-02-13 11:02, Sören Plönnigs wrote: Hi, is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package? # grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system(kdialog --error \@line[1]\); What about switching to zenity? It needs GTK, but opposed to KDE, that should be available on almost any system, shouldn't it? Cheers Morty -- Dipl.-Ing. Moritz 'Morty' Struebe (Wissenschaftlicher Mitarbeiter) Lehrstuhl für Informatik 4 (Verteilte Systeme und Betriebssysteme) Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg Martensstr. 1 91058 Erlangen Tel : +49 9131 85-25419 Fax : +49 9131 85-28732 eMail : stru...@informatik.uni-erlangen.de WWW : http://www4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de/~morty smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Kryptografische Unterschrift ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Am 13.02.2012 12:03, schrieb newsgroups.ma...@stefanbaur.de: Am 13.02.2012 11:02, schrieb Sören Plönnigs: is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package? And I do remember seeing a rather clever hack in a bash script once, that tried to figure out which dialog frontend to use (I think it tried Gnome, KDE, Xdialog and finally an xterm with regular dialog inside, if it detected an X Session, and regular dialog on the console, or something like that). Apart from Xdialog being unmaintained upstream for several years now, that's a possibility. But why not use the libnotify directly? That way you wouldn't need to find out, what desktop environment was running. Oliver ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Hi Morty, On Mo 13 Feb 2012 13:18:42 CET Moritz Struebe wrote: On 2012-02-13 11:02, Sören Plönnigs wrote: Hi, is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package? # grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10 ./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session: system(kdialog --error \@line[1]\); What about switching to zenity? It needs GTK, but opposed to KDE, that should be available on almost any system, shouldn't it? Zenity is already used for all desktop environments which have a: GNOME_DESKTOP_SESSION_ID != What we should do is patch the code in a way that the absence of zenity and kdialog does not throw an error. Patches are welcome! Greets, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpcoLmtLy8Oj.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Hi Sören,
On Mo 13 Feb 2012 11:02:41 CET Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10
./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session:
system(kdialog --error \@line[1]\);
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde
environment.
In our Debian package I cannot see any dependency on kdialog. Do you
really mean package in the strict sense? Or do you mean, that the
absence of kdialog throws an error and this should handle differently?
Mike
quote
Package: x2goserver
Architecture: any
Depends:
${shlibs:Depends},
${misc:Depends},
x2goagent,
lsof,
openssh-client,
openssh-server,
libconfig-simple-perl,
makepasswd,
libdbd-pg-perl,
libdbd-sqlite3-perl,
adduser,
xauth,
psmisc,
net-tools
Recommends:
sshfs,
x11-apps,
x11-session-utils,
x11-utils,
x11-xfs-utils,
x11-xkb-utils,
x11-xserver-utils,
xinit,
x2goserver-extensions (= ${source:Version})
Suggests:
x2goserver-printing (= ${source:Version}),
x2goserver-compat (= ${source:Version}),
x2goserver-xsession (= ${source:Version}),
x2goserver-pyhoca (= ${source:Version})
Breaks:
x2goserver-one,
x2goserver-home,
Replaces:
x2goserver-one,
x2goserver-home,
Description: X2Go server daemon scripts
X2Go is a server based computing environment with
- session resuming
- low bandwith support
- LDAP support
- client side mass storage mounting support
- audio support
- authentication by smartcard and USB stick
.
This package contains the main daemon and tools for
X2Go server-side session administrations.
.
The x2goserver package provides full functionality
for running the X2Go project's legacy X2Go client
(x2goclient) on the client-side.
.
However, if you intend using other client implementations
of X2Go make sure that you also have X2Go server
extensions package (x2goserver-extensions) installed.
/quote
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Am 13.02.2012 13:47, schrieb Mike Gabriel:
Hi Sören,
On Mo 13 Feb 2012 11:02:41 CET Sören Plönnigs wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to remove the dependency for kdialog from x2goserver
package?
# grep '\bkdialog\b' x2goserver_3.0.99.10
./x2goserver_3.0.99.10/x2goserver/bin/x2goumount-session:
system(kdialog --error \@line[1]\);
It's not nice that a bunch of kde packages is needed in a non kde
environment.
In our Debian package I cannot see any dependency on kdialog. Do you
really mean package in the strict sense? Or do you mean, that the
absence of kdialog throws an error and this should handle differently?
Hi Mike,
I'm not using Debian but Centos. As Jan Engelhard set up an repository
on Opensuse Build Service, I wanted to try it out. There were some
problems with the requirements while trying to install the packages and
so I checked out the spec file which was used for packaging. In the spec
file there was a dependency for kdialog which makes no sense in my eyes,
so I asked Jan and he told me that there is an hardcoded call to kdialog
in the x2goumount-session script.
In my eyes it should be replaced by some kind of notify call to the
xsession (I'm not into xorg programming, sorry if I'm getting something
wrong and this doesn't work). Maybe using which dialog can also work,
but I think using the notifying system of the window manager is more
elegant.
By the way, the x2go packages on the build service still have some
issues. I'm trying to fix them right now and give back the changes to
Jan. As he is an Suse developer he surely needs more testers for the
packages for Redhat/Fedora.
Sören
Mike
quote
Package: x2goserver
Architecture: any
Depends:
${shlibs:Depends},
${misc:Depends},
x2goagent,
lsof,
openssh-client,
openssh-server,
libconfig-simple-perl,
makepasswd,
libdbd-pg-perl,
libdbd-sqlite3-perl,
adduser,
xauth,
psmisc,
net-tools
Recommends:
sshfs,
x11-apps,
x11-session-utils,
x11-utils,
x11-xfs-utils,
x11-xkb-utils,
x11-xserver-utils,
xinit,
x2goserver-extensions (= ${source:Version})
Suggests:
x2goserver-printing (= ${source:Version}),
x2goserver-compat (= ${source:Version}),
x2goserver-xsession (= ${source:Version}),
x2goserver-pyhoca (= ${source:Version})
Breaks:
x2goserver-one,
x2goserver-home,
Replaces:
x2goserver-one,
x2goserver-home,
Description: X2Go server daemon scripts
X2Go is a server based computing environment with
- session resuming
- low bandwith support
- LDAP support
- client side mass storage mounting support
- audio support
- authentication by smartcard and USB stick
.
This package contains the main daemon and tools for
X2Go server-side session administrations.
.
The x2goserver package provides full functionality
for running the X2Go project's legacy X2Go client
(x2goclient) on the client-side.
.
However, if you intend using other client implementations
of X2Go make sure that you also have X2Go server
extensions package (x2goserver-extensions) installed.
/quote
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Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Hi Sören, On Mo 13 Feb 2012 14:06:48 CET Sören Plönnigs wrote: I'm not using Debian but Centos. As Jan Engelhard set up an repository on Opensuse Build Service, I wanted to try it out. There were some problems with the requirements while trying to install the packages and so I checked out the spec file which was used for packaging. In the spec file there was a dependency for kdialog which makes no sense in my eyes, so I asked Jan and he told me that there is an hardcoded call to kdialog in the x2goumount-session script. In my eyes it should be replaced by some kind of notify call to the xsession (I'm not into xorg programming, sorry if I'm getting something wrong and this doesn't work). Maybe using which dialog can also work, but I think using the notifying system of the window manager is more elegant. By the way, the x2go packages on the build service still have some issues. I'm trying to fix them right now and give back the changes to Jan. As he is an Suse developer he surely needs more testers for the packages for Redhat/Fedora. Patch committed... http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=x2goserver.git;a=commitdiff;h=2cffebd0aab22890d25a3f7539068c95087e9a2e @Jan: please only use those dependencies that we use in the Debian package. Please check /debian/control for further info: http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=x2goserver.git;a=blob;f=debian/control Greets, Mike -- DAS-NETZWERKTEAM mike gabriel, dorfstr. 27, 24245 barmissen fon: +49 (4302) 281418, fax: +49 (4302) 281419 GnuPG Key ID 0xB588399B mail: mike.gabr...@das-netzwerkteam.de, http://das-netzwerkteam.de freeBusy: https://mail.das-netzwerkteam.de/freebusy/m.gabriel%40das-netzwerkteam.de.xfb pgpoXBT7hKvkY.pgp Description: Digitale PGP-Unterschrift ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
Re: [X2Go-Dev] - Dependency for kdialog
Hi Oliver, Am 13.02.2012 13:20, schrieb Oliver Burger: But why not use the libnotify directly? That way you wouldn't need to find out, what desktop environment was running. as far as I know, libnotify is gnome based only (http://developer.gnome.org/libnotify/) please tell me if I'm wrong?! Regards, Heinz ___ X2Go-Dev mailing list X2Go-Dev@lists.berlios.de https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/x2go-dev
