Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a 
 different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, 
 since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets 
 initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really 
 had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the 
 issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup 
 on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.

 Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
 logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.
 
 libxeno_common is a convenience library, which means that when
 libpthread_rt.so is assembled, the object files from libxeno_common are
 included.

BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?

 
 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.
 

It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
skins/common/current.c now.

Jan

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables 
 which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a 
 different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, 
 since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets 
 initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really 
 had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the 
 libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the 
 issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in 
 a minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup 
 on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at 
 all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.

 Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
 logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.
 libxeno_common is a convenience library, which means that when
 libpthread_rt.so is assembled, the object files from libxeno_common are
 included.
 
 BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?

Complications. Currently the way of linking a native application is to do:

`xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative

Since when linking, the order matter, we can not hide this new library
in xeno-config --ldflags, so we would have to turn this into:

`xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative -lxeno-common

i.e. breaking user way of building applications. I do not think the gain
is worth the trouble: linking against only one xenomai library looks to
me like the most common case.


 
 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

 
 It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
 skins/common/current.c now.

I am not that confident about that change. By using the weak directive,
we make sure that the same __thread variable is used for instance. If we
do not do that, what prevents the code from using the local symbols in
each library ? IOW, removing the duplicate could work for libxeno_common
symbols when invoked externally (which probably almost never happens),
but not inside the skin libraries. I do not know about that, which is
why I kept the weak declarations.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables 
 which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a 
 different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your 
 change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets 
 initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you 
 really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the 
 libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set 
 of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. 
 And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the 
 issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in 
 a minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at 
 startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at 
 all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.

 Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
 logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.
 libxeno_common is a convenience library, which means that when
 libpthread_rt.so is assembled, the object files from libxeno_common are
 included.
 BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?
 
 Complications. Currently the way of linking a native application is to do:
 
 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative
 
 Since when linking, the order matter, we can not hide this new library
 in xeno-config --ldflags, so we would have to turn this into:
 
 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative -lxeno-common
 
 i.e. breaking user way of building applications. I do not think the gain
 is worth the trouble: linking against only one xenomai library looks to
 me like the most common case.

What would break when swapping -lnative and -xeno-common arbitrarily?

There is a _lot_ of cleanup potential. E.g. all that redundant __real
wrappers are good candidates for libxeno-common.

 
 
 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

 It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
 skins/common/current.c now.
 
 I am not that confident about that change. By using the weak directive,
 we make sure that the same __thread variable is used for instance. If we
 do not do that, what prevents the code from using the local symbols in
 each library ? IOW, removing the duplicate could work for libxeno_common
 symbols when invoked externally (which probably almost never happens),
 but not inside the skin libraries. I do not know about that, which is
 why I kept the weak declarations.

Mixing weak functions with non-weak variables can cause troubles as
well. Sticking our head into the sand is no good approach, understanding
the requirements for weak or not is better - and eliminating weak would
be best.

Jan

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Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT T DE IT 1
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables 
 which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a 
 different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your 
 change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets 
 initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you 
 really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the 
 libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set 
 of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. 
 And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the 
 issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch 
 in a minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at 
 startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by 
 Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at 
 all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.

 Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
 logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.
 libxeno_common is a convenience library, which means that when
 libpthread_rt.so is assembled, the object files from libxeno_common are
 included.
 BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?
 Complications. Currently the way of linking a native application is to do:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative

 Since when linking, the order matter, we can not hide this new library
 in xeno-config --ldflags, so we would have to turn this into:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative -lxeno-common

 i.e. breaking user way of building applications. I do not think the gain
 is worth the trouble: linking against only one xenomai library looks to
 me like the most common case.
 
 What would break when swapping -lnative and -xeno-common arbitrarily?

If you are linking with static libraries (which is the case that
matters), the linker would skip all objects from xeno-common completely
since none of their symbols are required, then fail after libnative
because of missing symbols (defined in libxeno_common).

 
 There is a _lot_ of cleanup potential. E.g. all that redundant __real
 wrappers are good candidates for libxeno-common.

Thanks to the wrap-link.sh script, the __real wrappers are no longer
required. Besides, they are only needed for the posix skin, so there is
no need to put them in libxeno-common. This is something which needs to
be fixed too.

 

 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

 It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
 skins/common/current.c now.
 I am not that confident about that change. By using the weak directive,
 we make sure that the same __thread variable is used for instance. If we
 do not do that, what prevents the code from using the local symbols in
 each library ? IOW, removing the duplicate could work for libxeno_common
 symbols when invoked externally (which probably almost never happens),
 but not inside the skin libraries. I do not know about that, which is
 why I kept the weak declarations.
 
 Mixing weak functions with non-weak variables can cause troubles as
 well. Sticking our head into the sand is no good approach, understanding
 the requirements for weak or not is better - and eliminating weak would
 be best.

Yes, all 

Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables 
 which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a 
 different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your 
 change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets 
 initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you 
 really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the 
 libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one 
 set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. 
 And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the 
 issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch 
 in a minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at 
 startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by 
 Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at 
 all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the 
 clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common 
 should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.

 Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
 logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.
 libxeno_common is a convenience library, which means that when
 libpthread_rt.so is assembled, the object files from libxeno_common are
 included.
 BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?
 Complications. Currently the way of linking a native application is to do:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative

 Since when linking, the order matter, we can not hide this new library
 in xeno-config --ldflags, so we would have to turn this into:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative -lxeno-common

 i.e. breaking user way of building applications. I do not think the gain
 is worth the trouble: linking against only one xenomai library looks to
 me like the most common case.
 What would break when swapping -lnative and -xeno-common arbitrarily?
 
 If you are linking with static libraries (which is the case that
 matters), the linker would skip all objects from xeno-common completely
 since none of their symbols are required, then fail after libnative
 because of missing symbols (defined in libxeno_common).

OK. But I this is a custom scenario and naturally requires careful
library ordering by the user anyway. For us the rule is simple: put
front-end libs to the front, push the xeno LDFLAGS to the end.

BTW, if you link via `xeno-config --xeno-ldflags` -lnative --static,
things break already today (as pthread is processed before native).
Adding -lxeno_common to the output of xeno-config would not change the
situation.

 
 There is a _lot_ of cleanup potential. E.g. all that redundant __real
 wrappers are good candidates for libxeno-common.
 
 Thanks to the wrap-link.sh script, the __real wrappers are no longer
 required. Besides, they are only needed for the posix skin, so there is
 no need to put them in libxeno-common. This is something which needs to
 be fixed too.

wrap-link.sh is a convenience script, I don't think we could make its
use mandatory. So every skin that uses wrapped symbols should remain
hardened.

 
 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

 It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
 skins/common/current.c now.
 I am not that confident about that change. By using the weak directive,
 we make sure that the same 

Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?
 Complications. Currently the way of linking a native application is to do:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative

 Since when linking, the order matter, we can not hide this new library
 in xeno-config --ldflags, so we would have to turn this into:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative -lxeno-common

 i.e. breaking user way of building applications. I do not think the gain
 is worth the trouble: linking against only one xenomai library looks to
 me like the most common case.
 What would break when swapping -lnative and -xeno-common arbitrarily?
 If you are linking with static libraries (which is the case that
 matters), the linker would skip all objects from xeno-common completely
 since none of their symbols are required, then fail after libnative
 because of missing symbols (defined in libxeno_common).
 
 OK. But I this is a custom scenario and naturally requires careful
 library ordering by the user anyway. For us the rule is simple: put
 front-end libs to the front, push the xeno LDFLAGS to the end.

It does not fly either, the -L/usr/xenomai/lib is in the LDFLAGS, and
must be put before -lnative.

It would be nice to to add a --skin option to the xeno-config script,
which handles that. But again, we break the user interface.

that is:
xeno-config --skin=native --ldflags
would spit:
-L/usr/xenomai/lib -lnative -lxeno-common -lpthread -lrt

 
 BTW, if you link via `xeno-config --xeno-ldflags` -lnative --static,
 things break already today (as pthread is processed before native).
 Adding -lxeno_common to the output of xeno-config would not change the
 situation.

I guess it works because people usually use some pthread symbols in
their program already.

 
 There is a _lot_ of cleanup potential. E.g. all that redundant __real
 wrappers are good candidates for libxeno-common.
 Thanks to the wrap-link.sh script, the __real wrappers are no longer
 required. Besides, they are only needed for the posix skin, so there is
 no need to put them in libxeno-common. This is something which needs to
 be fixed too.
 
 wrap-link.sh is a convenience script, I don't think we could make its
 use mandatory. So every skin that uses wrapped symbols should remain
 hardened.

wrap-link.sh is already mandatory if you want to link statically with
the posix skin library. Which is also the case why the __real wrappers
exist at all.

 
 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

 It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
 skins/common/current.c now.
 I am not that confident about that change. By using the weak directive,
 we make sure that the same __thread variable is used for instance. If we
 do not do that, what prevents the code from using the local symbols in
 each library ? IOW, removing the duplicate could work for libxeno_common
 symbols when invoked externally (which probably almost never happens),
 but not inside the skin libraries. I do not know about that, which is
 why I kept the weak declarations.
 Mixing weak functions with non-weak variables can cause troubles as
 well. Sticking our head into the sand is no good approach, understanding
 the requirements for weak or not is better - and eliminating weak would
 be best.
 Yes, all non static variables must be made weak. But this should already
 be the case in libxeno_common.
 
 Yes, and all static inlines must be made global or the static symbols
 they access must become weak - that's where the bugs are hidden.

Not if the static symbols in all instances are initialized with the same
value (which is the case with xnarch_init_timeconv for instance).

 
 Using the weak attribute is the best approach. Having symbols multiply
 defined is a bad idea and not standard compliant. The problem is not
 to understand what happens with one instance of a toolchain, the problem
 is to know whether the behaviour is the same on all the toolchains of
 all the seven architectures supported by Xenomai. The --wrap directive
 proved that not all versions of all toolchains on all platforms are equal.

 The only alternative I would accept is a guaranteed portable ld
 directive that would make all the symbols of the library automagically weak.
 
 I'm convinced that weak is the non-standard approach here. If we need to
 mark commonly used functions weak, it indicates somethings is not yet
 optimally organized.

It is definitely non-standard. But works reliably the same way with gcc
on all platforms (well except if you declare some extern symbols weak,
but you are looking for trouble when doing that anyway).

I think we should not worry too much for these issues, as the current
situation works. So, we have plenty of time to decide what to do, and
more urgent issues to treat (such as the file descriptors situation, the
NTP stuff, or the posix signals to name a few).

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 BTW, what speaks against making it a dynamic library?
 Complications. Currently the way of linking a native application is to do:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative

 Since when linking, the order matter, we can not hide this new library
 in xeno-config --ldflags, so we would have to turn this into:

 `xeno-config --ldflags` -lnative -lxeno-common

 i.e. breaking user way of building applications. I do not think the gain
 is worth the trouble: linking against only one xenomai library looks to
 me like the most common case.
 What would break when swapping -lnative and -xeno-common arbitrarily?
 If you are linking with static libraries (which is the case that
 matters), the linker would skip all objects from xeno-common completely
 since none of their symbols are required, then fail after libnative
 because of missing symbols (defined in libxeno_common).
 OK. But I this is a custom scenario and naturally requires careful
 library ordering by the user anyway. For us the rule is simple: put
 front-end libs to the front, push the xeno LDFLAGS to the end.
 
 It does not fly either, the -L/usr/xenomai/lib is in the LDFLAGS, and
 must be put before -lnative.

But that must be some old toolchain issue. Normally, that doesn't matter
at all as the library path are first collected, and then linking starts.

 
 It would be nice to to add a --skin option to the xeno-config script,
 which handles that. But again, we break the user interface.
 
 that is:
 xeno-config --skin=native --ldflags
 would spit:
 -L/usr/xenomai/lib -lnative -lxeno-common -lpthread -lrt

For sure, that would make it most robust against user mistakes.

 
 BTW, if you link via `xeno-config --xeno-ldflags` -lnative --static,
 things break already today (as pthread is processed before native).
 Adding -lxeno_common to the output of xeno-config would not change the
 situation.
 
 I guess it works because people usually use some pthread symbols in
 their program already.
 
 There is a _lot_ of cleanup potential. E.g. all that redundant __real
 wrappers are good candidates for libxeno-common.
 Thanks to the wrap-link.sh script, the __real wrappers are no longer
 required. Besides, they are only needed for the posix skin, so there is
 no need to put them in libxeno-common. This is something which needs to
 be fixed too.
 wrap-link.sh is a convenience script, I don't think we could make its
 use mandatory. So every skin that uses wrapped symbols should remain
 hardened.
 
 wrap-link.sh is already mandatory if you want to link statically with
 the posix skin library. Which is also the case why the __real wrappers
 exist at all.
 
 I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

 It has to. For the same reason, we should be able to clean up
 skins/common/current.c now.
 I am not that confident about that change. By using the weak directive,
 we make sure that the same __thread variable is used for instance. If we
 do not do that, what prevents the code from using the local symbols in
 each library ? IOW, removing the duplicate could work for libxeno_common
 symbols when invoked externally (which probably almost never happens),
 but not inside the skin libraries. I do not know about that, which is
 why I kept the weak declarations.
 Mixing weak functions with non-weak variables can cause troubles as
 well. Sticking our head into the sand is no good approach, understanding
 the requirements for weak or not is better - and eliminating weak would
 be best.
 Yes, all non static variables must be made weak. But this should already
 be the case in libxeno_common.
 Yes, and all static inlines must be made global or the static symbols
 they access must become weak - that's where the bugs are hidden.
 
 Not if the static symbols in all instances are initialized with the same
 value (which is the case with xnarch_init_timeconv for instance).

And instantly - you forget about dlopen scenarios which triggered the
bug in timeconv.

 
 Using the weak attribute is the best approach. Having symbols multiply
 defined is a bad idea and not standard compliant. The problem is not
 to understand what happens with one instance of a toolchain, the problem
 is to know whether the behaviour is the same on all the toolchains of
 all the seven architectures supported by Xenomai. The --wrap directive
 proved that not all versions of all toolchains on all platforms are equal.

 The only alternative I would accept is a guaranteed portable ld
 directive that would make all the symbols of the library automagically weak.
 I'm convinced that weak is the non-standard approach here. If we need to
 mark commonly used functions weak, it indicates somethings is not yet
 optimally organized.
 
 It is definitely non-standard. But works reliably the same way with gcc
 on all platforms (well except if you declare some extern symbols weak,
 but you are looking for trouble when doing that anyway).
 
 I think we should not worry too much for these issues, as 

Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 And instantly - you forget about dlopen scenarios which triggered the
 bug in timeconv.

I do not see why dlopen would trigger a bug. Could you explain it?

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 And instantly - you forget about dlopen scenarios which triggered the
 bug in timeconv.
 
 I do not see why dlopen would trigger a bug. Could you explain it?

If you dlopen, say, libnative and call a symbol that uses some timeconv
constants, you have to make sure that the init code of libnative
initializes those variables that are later used. Currently this is not
the case as init_timeconv works on libnative variables while the weak
conversion functions may work on a possibly (in our case really)
uninitialized set of some other skin. We can work around it, but it
remains a bug.

Jan

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 And instantly - you forget about dlopen scenarios which triggered the
 bug in timeconv.
 I do not see why dlopen would trigger a bug. Could you explain it?
 
 If you dlopen, say, libnative and call a symbol that uses some timeconv
 constants, you have to make sure that the init code of libnative
 initializes those variables that are later used.

That is where I do not follow you. dlopen is called after the startup of
the other libs, so either it references its own variables, which are
initialized once its constructor has been called. Or it references the
variables of the posix lib (only native and posix use timeconv in
user-space) which is already initialized.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 And instantly - you forget about dlopen scenarios which triggered the
 bug in timeconv.
 I do not see why dlopen would trigger a bug. Could you explain it?
 If you dlopen, say, libnative and call a symbol that uses some timeconv
 constants, you have to make sure that the init code of libnative
 initializes those variables that are later used.
 
 That is where I do not follow you. dlopen is called after the startup of
 the other libs, so either it references its own variables, which are
 initialized once its constructor has been called. Or it references the
 variables of the posix lib (only native and posix use timeconv in
 user-space) which is already initialized.

In this case, dlopen was part of some constructor, and the ordering
turned out to be unfortunate.

Jan

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-11 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 And instantly - you forget about dlopen scenarios which triggered the
 bug in timeconv.
 I do not see why dlopen would trigger a bug. Could you explain it?
 If you dlopen, say, libnative and call a symbol that uses some timeconv
 constants, you have to make sure that the init code of libnative
 initializes those variables that are later used.
 That is where I do not follow you. dlopen is called after the startup of
 the other libs, so either it references its own variables, which are
 initialized once its constructor has been called. Or it references the
 variables of the posix lib (only native and posix use timeconv in
 user-space) which is already initialized.
 
 In this case, dlopen was part of some constructor, and the ordering
 turned out to be unfortunate.

Ok. Got it now. Will test your patch, but I will probably leave the weak
attribute to the shared functions.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.
 
 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a minute.

Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
my dual PIII.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a minute.
 
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.
 

Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 
 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?

No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.
 

Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 
 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.

I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.

xnarch_init_timeconv does not need to be exported, it may only be called
in common (bind.c, or timeconv.c, or something like that).

xnarch_tsc_to_ns/ns_to_tsc have no reason to be put in arith.h,
timeconv.h was about just right. Maybe create asm-generic/timeconv.h?

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.

Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
allowing them to be overloaded.

 
 xnarch_init_timeconv does not need to be exported, it may only be called
 in common (bind.c, or timeconv.c, or something like that).

If xnarch_init_timeconv shall be executed unconditionally, I will
happily make it static inline again and call it from xeno_bind_skin_opt
(which would imply retrieving sysinfo as well).

 
 xnarch_tsc_to_ns/ns_to_tsc have no reason to be put in arith.h,
 timeconv.h was about just right. Maybe create asm-generic/timeconv.h?
 

Makes sense.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, 
 since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized 
 by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.

Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
libxeno_common twice.

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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 If xnarch_init_timeconv shall be executed unconditionally, I will
 happily make it static inline again and call it from xeno_bind_skin_opt
 (which would imply retrieving sysinfo as well).

It is executed unconditionally, but needs to be available to kernel
space as well.


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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 If xnarch_init_timeconv shall be executed unconditionally, I will
 happily make it static inline again and call it from xeno_bind_skin_opt
 (which would imply retrieving sysinfo as well).
 
 It is executed unconditionally, but needs to be available to kernel
 space as well.

Not yet (it was POSIX- and Native-only), but we can change this.

Jan



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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Jan Kiszka
Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, 
 since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets initialized 
 by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really 
 had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.
 

Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.

Jan



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Re: [Xenomai-core] [Xenomai-git] Jan Kiszka : Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

2010-02-10 Thread Gilles Chanteperdrix
Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 Jan Kiszka wrote:
 Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
 GIT version control wrote:
 Module: xenomai-jki
 Branch: for-upstream
 Commit: 6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75
 URL:
 http://git.xenomai.org/?p=xenomai-jki.git;a=commit;h=6b40653e9c3c4a2433bb4e91344fc378eb860f75

 Author: Jan Kiszka jan.kis...@siemens.com
 Date:   Wed Feb 10 13:24:29 2010 +0100

 Make xnarch_init_timeconv an uninlined weak function

 Otherwise the wrong set of time conversion variables might get
 initialized when using  1 skin libraries.
 If that would be possible, then it is the conversion variables which
 should made be weak, not the function.

 The way I see it, the posix and native skins currently get a 
 different
 set of variables and functions, which works, but with your change, 
 since
 there is only one function, only one set of variable gets 
 initialized by
 the two function calls. And one skin just broke.

 Or am I missing something? Does the patch fix a problem you really 
 had?
 Frankly, I wasn't able to test in the field yet as replacing the libs
 there is non-trivial. But I was able to observe that only one set of
 functions is used - which is logical considering the weak marks. And
 this breaks due to the static inline initialization.

 However, let's mark both functions and variables weak to fix the issue
 and avoid leaving unused variables around. Will update my patch in a 
 minute.
 Ok. I am reverting this patch until you provide me with another
 solution. It causes latency to segfault purely and simply at startup on
 my dual PIII.

 Cannot reproduce yet. Do you have a backtrace?
 No. But the problem is probably the same as the one signaled by Henri,
 a misplaced weak directive ending up in a symbol with no address at all.
 Since the current situation works, I am going to wait for the clean
 fix which puts some code/data in the src/skins/common directory.

 Find it in my tree. But it's not yet well tested.
 I do not like it either. Functions which are in src/skins/common should
 still be weak, since this lib is included in all the skins libraries.
 Those functions are now in libxeno_common only, so I see no point in
 allowing them to be overloaded.
 Yes, but libxeno_common is included in libpthread_rt.so and
 libnative.so. So, if you link with both libraries, you get
 libxeno_common twice.

 
 Do we link libxeno_common statically? Otherwise, this conflict is not
 logical to me. Also, there are other symbols in bind.c that are non-weak.

libxeno_common is a convenience library, which means that when
libpthread_rt.so is assembled, the object files from libxeno_common are
included.

I guess the loader eliminates the duplicates.

-- 
Gilles.

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