[xmail] hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread max toro q
Hello, I'm new in this list. I installed Xmail on win2k, and I have delivery problems to hotmail. Some messages get delivered, some simply get lost. The log shows no sign of problem. I've also done some testing with gmail and yahoo, no problem there, everything gets delivered. I have another

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Romeo Catalin Gales
SPF configuration problem ???... Hotmail look for SPF key in your DNS... If you are hosting multiple domains on your e-mail server is possible to forget SPF line for one of them... Also did you chech all the Trash folder into Hotmail account?? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[xmail] Re: Header 'Received :' question/suggestion

2008-03-21 Thread CLEMENT Francis
-Message d'origine- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Davide Libenzi Envoy=E9 : vendredi 21 mars 2008 06:50 =C0 : 'xmail@xmailserver.org' Objet : [xmail] Re: Header 'Received :' question/suggestion On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, CLEMENT Francis wrote: Hello Davide and

[xmail] Re: Header 'Received :' question/suggestion

2008-03-21 Thread David Lord
On 20 Mar 2008, at 22:50, Davide Libenzi wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008, CLEMENT Francis wrote: Hello Davide and list Here is a sample xmail generated 'Received :' header : Received: from some_sender_name ([aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd]:p) (not important) What is exactly the

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread David Lord
On 21 Mar 2008, at 1:56, max toro q wrote: Hello, I'm new in this list. I installed Xmail on win2k, and I have delivery problems to hotmail. Some messages get delivered, some simply get lost. The log shows no sign of problem. I've also done some testing with gmail and yahoo, no problem

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Francesco Vertova
At 12.47 21/03/08, David Lord wrote: On 21 Mar 2008, at 1:56, max toro q wrote: I installed Xmail on win2k, and I have delivery problems to hotmail. Some messages get delivered, some simply get lost. The log shows no sign of problem. Yes but not very often. Mails are accepted but never

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread David Lord
On 21 Mar 2008, at 16:41, Francesco Vertova wrote: At 12.47 21/03/08, David Lord wrote: On 21 Mar 2008, at 1:56, max toro q wrote: I installed Xmail on win2k, and I have delivery problems to hotmail. Some messages get delivered, some simply get lost. The log shows no sign of problem.

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
if a MTA accepts a message for delivery, it must either deliver or bounce.. While this was a nice idea at one time, it really isn't desirable any more. Why? SPAM. I get thousands of emails that I accept but are then rejected by my spam filtering. You don't want me sending all those bounce

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Francesco Vertova
At 19.16 21/03/08, Phillip R. Shaw wrote: if a MTA accepts a message for delivery, it must either deliver or bounce.. While this was a nice idea at one time, it really isn't desirable any more. Why? SPAM. I get thousands of emails that I accept but are then rejected by my spam filtering. You

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Phillip R. Shaw
I agree the RFC's still require it. I agree that an MTA can reject with a 5xx if it does not like the message. But, to say that a system that accepts all incoming email and filters at a later stage is required to send bounce messages on all the rejected email later is making a bad problem

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread max toro q
I don't think it's a SPF issue. I have another server with Postfix running, and all messages that I send to Hotnail through that server are delivered. But with Xmail messages get lost almost always. I've done all my testing using the same client computer (with static IP), same client software

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, max toro q wrote: I don't think it's a SPF issue. I have another server with Postfix running, and all messages that I send to Hotnail through that server are delivered. But with Xmail messages get lost almost always. Lost? I doubt. Dropped by Hotmail, likely. - Davide

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread max toro q
Davide, I totally agree that Hotmail drops the messages, but I don't have that problem when I use Postfix. Can you think of a reason for that? 2008/3/21, Davide Libenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, max toro q wrote: I don't think it's a SPF issue. I have another server with Postfix

[xmail] Re: hotmail delivery problems

2008-03-21 Thread Davide Libenzi
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, max toro q wrote: Davide, I totally agree that Hotmail drops the messages, but I don't have that problem when I use Postfix. Can you think of a reason for that? The likely have some broken script/filter on their side. Hard to say. I send emails to Hotfail accounts w/out