Re: OT: YJ vs Notebook

[Gary Reimer]

I use them both. Notebook and Yojimbo each serve different purposes,  
at least the way I use them. You need to try Notebook to understand  
the difference, but I don’t think one replaces the other.

Gary
On 22-May-08, at 3:08 PM, John wrote:


I'm, beginning to like BB's method of tags and searching.

Does anyone have any opinions on how YJ compares to Notebook from  
Circus Ponies? I like YJ and since Notebook is $20 more than YJ, I  
haven't tried it. Just wondering if anyone else here has, and can  
comment on how the two compare.


Thanks,
John



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Re: OT: YJ vs Notebook

[Jan Erik Moström]

John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08-05-22 13.08



Does anyone have any opinions on how YJ compares to Notebook from
Circus Ponies? I like YJ and since Notebook is $20 more than YJ, I
haven't tried it. Just wondering if anyone else here has, and can
comment on how the two compare.


I use both, Yojimbo to me is that drawer where you put all the 
stuff you might need sometime ... or not. Notebook is a place 
where you can write longer pieces of text, take meeting notes, 
etc --- in short a notebook.


None of them is perfect for everything and even put together 
they don't cover everything I need (you got to add BBEdit, Yep, 
BibDesk and Skim for that)


jem
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Re: OT: YJ vs Notebook

[Robertson Dale A.]

Yojimbo is ideal for smaller bits and is one that I frequently use.  
For more structured stuff or larger collections of related items, e.g  
a series of newpaper columns or articles Notebook fits better for me.  
I use them both

On May 22, 2008, at 16:08, John wrote:


I'm, beginning to like BB's method of tags and searching.

Does anyone have any opinions on how YJ compares to Notebook from  
Circus Ponies? I like YJ and since Notebook is $20 more than YJ, I  
haven't tried it. Just wondering if anyone else here has, and can  
comment on how the two compare.


Thanks,
John




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Re: OT: YJ vs Notebook

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On 22 May 2008, at 21:08, John wrote:


I'm, beginning to like BB's method of tags and searching.

Does anyone have any opinions on how YJ compares to Notebook from  
Circus Ponies? I like YJ and since Notebook is $20 more than YJ, I  
haven't tried it. Just wondering if anyone else here has, and can  
comment on how the two compare.


Thanks,
John


I have a Notebook licence which I got through MacHeist, and I did try  
using it for a while, though moved back to Yojimbo as my main "stuff  
manager".


Notebook, I think, would be great if you are lucky enough to have  
clearly-defined projects which don't interact with each other a lot.  
It has all sorts of nice ways to subdivide content, have different  
pages allowing entry in different formats (one page could be a big  
free text thing, another an outline, another a dated log) and does  
things like export tasks to iCal.


I found in practice that with my "stuff inbox" mostly consisting of  
lots of small random items appearing and needing to be organised, and  
things which seem to endlessly move about between projects and be  
relevant to dozens at once, this didn't really fit in with how I  
wanted to do things, and so I ended up sticking with a combination of  
Yojimbo and iCal. However, Notebook is certainly a good product, and  
one I enjoyed using - I preferred keeping activity logs with Notebook  
over Yojimbo for instance.


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OT: YJ vs Notebook

[John]

I'm, beginning to like BB's method of tags and searching.

Does anyone have any opinions on how YJ compares to Notebook from  
Circus Ponies? I like YJ and since Notebook is $20 more than YJ, I  
haven't tried it. Just wondering if anyone else here has, and can  
comment on how the two compare.


Thanks,
John


On May 22, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Jan Erik Moström wrote:


John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08-05-22 09.35

But from what I see so far, as a very new person here, it appears  
that the developers have a very definite mind of their own as to  
what YJ should do, and/or, not do.  Maybe I'm wrong, but they don't  
seem to pay much attention to the desires of their user base.


As a longtime user of BBSW I have to comment on this. While it may  
*seem* that they don't pay attention I don't think that is the  
case ... it's definitely not my impression. My experience is that  
they are less interested in knowing how something should look/work,  
what they are really interested in is to understand what you *want  
to do* - what problem you are trying to solve.


They then try to find best possible way to solve that problem, which  
might result in an implementation that is similar to what was asked  
or something different.


My experience is that they might to chose to not implement some  
feature because they think it makes the program too complex or  
difficult to use.


Note that BBSW are well-known for being rather tight-lipped about  
releases, new features etc, so I've always interpreted a silent BBSW  
as that they are working on a new version.


Please note: I don't know what plans BBSW have, what features the  
next version of Yojimbo will have, etc. I have beta tested their  
software for a few years but that's it.


   jem
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