Re: [za-pm] Getting connected to the za-pm website. bitcard, webdav, cadaver, and all that!

2010-06-29 Thread Edoardo Sabadelli
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Anne Wainwright
 wrote:
> Hello, Edoardo,
>
> We're in!

Yay! \o/

I'm glad it worked :)

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Re: [za-pm] Getting connected to the za-pm website. bitcard, webdav, cadaver, and all that!

2010-06-29 Thread Anne Wainwright
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Hello, Edoardo,

We're in! I've saved that somewhere safe. Thanks, lets look at what we
have got.

anothera...@pandora:~$ cadaver https://groups.pm.org/groups/za
WARNING: Untrusted server certificate presented for `groups.pm.org':
Issued to: Group Hosting Services, Perl Mongers, Los Angeles,
California, US
Issued by: Certificate Authority, Develooper, Los Angeles, CA, US
Certificate is valid from Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:24:49 GMT to Tue, 06 Dec
2011 11:24:49 GMT
Do you wish to accept the certificate? (y/n) y
Authentication required for groups.perl.org on server `groups.pm.org':
Username: anotheranne
Password: 
dav:/groups/za/> ls
Listing collection `/groups/za/': succeeded.
Coll:   articles   0  Jun  7  2003
Coll:   images 0  Mar 23  2003
about.html  4438  Mar 23  2003
articles.html   2671  Jun  7  2003
index.html  7499  Jun  7  2003
template.html   1933  Mar 23  2003
updates.tar.gz 12876  Jun  7  2003
www-2003-03-23.tar.gz   8634  Mar 23  2003
dav:/groups/za/> 

anne

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 20:27:16 +0200
Edoardo Sabadelli  wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Anne Wainwright
>  wrote:
> > Hello, Edoardo,
> 
> Hi!
> 
> > Thanks for the reply. The account has been re-activated according to
> > supp...@pm.org
> >
> >>- I submitted a DNS request for you (pulling za.pm.org back to our
> >>  server)
> 
> This sounds a bit strange tho, I think the site has always been
> online, so I don't understand the "pulling za.pm.org back to our
> server"...
> 
> > anothera...@pandora:~$ cadaver
> > https://groups.pm.org/groups/za.pm.org WARNING: Untrusted server
> > certificate presented for `groups.pm.org': Issued to: Group Hosting
> > Services, Perl Mongers, Los Angeles, California, US
> > Issued by: Certificate Authority, Develooper, Los Angeles, CA, US
> > Certificate is valid from Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:24:49 GMT to Tue, 06
> > Dec 2011 11:24:49 GMT
> > Do you wish to accept the certificate?
> > (y/n) y
> > Authentication required for groups.perl.org on server
> > `groups.pm.org':
> > Username: anotheranne
> > Password:
> > Could not open collection:
> > 403 Forbidden
> 
> This error can mean that the authentication fails or that the folder
> za.pm.org does not exists.
> 
> From the FAQ I think it the URL should be
> https://groups.pm.org/groups/za. Did you try also that?
> 
> > dav:/groups/za.pm.org/?
> > dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? ls
> > The `ls' command can only be used when connected to the server.
> > Try running `open' first (see `help open' for more details).
> > dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? help open
> >  `open URL'   Open connection to given URL
> > dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? open http://za.pm.org/
> 
> I think the open should not be needed when passing a URL directly to
> cadaver as argument...
> 
> > thus not sure where to go next. Maybe supp...@pm.org are incorrect.
> > Since the za-pm site is visible, it must have been done?
> 
> Yes, it must be there.
> So my suggestion is to try https://groups.pm.org/groups/za.
> If that still doesn't work, maybe try a different DAV client, I don't
> have experience with cadaver but it should support https...
> 
> > ps. I think copy to the list to show activity at least.
> 
> Yes, sorry, I read the first note in your mail and didn't understand
> the meaning ;)
> 
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Re: [za-pm] Getting connected to the za-pm website. bitcard, webdav, cadaver, and all that!

2010-06-29 Thread Edoardo Sabadelli
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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 8:08 PM, Anne Wainwright
 wrote:
> Hello, Edoardo,

Hi!

> Thanks for the reply. The account has been re-activated according to
> supp...@pm.org
>
>>- I submitted a DNS request for you (pulling za.pm.org back to our
>>  server)

This sounds a bit strange tho, I think the site has always been
online, so I don't understand the "pulling za.pm.org back to our
server"...

> anothera...@pandora:~$ cadaver https://groups.pm.org/groups/za.pm.org
> WARNING: Untrusted server certificate presented for `groups.pm.org':
> Issued to: Group Hosting Services, Perl Mongers, Los Angeles,
> California, US
> Issued by: Certificate Authority, Develooper, Los Angeles, CA, US
> Certificate is valid from Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:24:49 GMT to Tue, 06 Dec
> 2011 11:24:49 GMT
> Do you wish to accept the certificate?
> (y/n) y
> Authentication required for groups.perl.org on server
> `groups.pm.org':
> Username: anotheranne
> Password:
> Could not open collection:
> 403 Forbidden

This error can mean that the authentication fails or that the folder
za.pm.org does not exists.

>From the FAQ I think it the URL should be https://groups.pm.org/groups/za.
Did you try also that?

> dav:/groups/za.pm.org/?
> dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? ls
> The `ls' command can only be used when connected to the server.
> Try running `open' first (see `help open' for more details).
> dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? help open
>  `open URL'   Open connection to given URL
> dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? open http://za.pm.org/

I think the open should not be needed when passing a URL directly to
cadaver as argument...

> thus not sure where to go next. Maybe supp...@pm.org are incorrect.
> Since the za-pm site is visible, it must have been done?

Yes, it must be there.
So my suggestion is to try https://groups.pm.org/groups/za.
If that still doesn't work, maybe try a different DAV client, I don't
have experience with cadaver but it should support https...

> ps. I think copy to the list to show activity at least.

Yes, sorry, I read the first note in your mail and didn't understand
the meaning ;)

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Re: [za-pm] Getting connected to the za-pm website. bitcard, webdav, cadaver, and all that!

2010-06-29 Thread Anne Wainwright
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Hello, Edoardo,

Thanks for the reply. The account has been re-activated according to
supp...@pm.org

>- I submitted a DNS request for you (pulling za.pm.org back to our
>  server)
>- I updated our WebDAV control file per the FAQ below  


I went through the bitcard process and have a new password but things
are not changed. thus:

anothera...@pandora:~$ cadaver https://groups.pm.org/groups/za.pm.org
WARNING: Untrusted server certificate presented for `groups.pm.org':
Issued to: Group Hosting Services, Perl Mongers, Los Angeles,
California, US 
Issued by: Certificate Authority, Develooper, Los Angeles, CA, US
Certificate is valid from Thu, 07 Dec 2006 11:24:49 GMT to Tue, 06 Dec
2011 11:24:49 GMT 
Do you wish to accept the certificate?
(y/n) y 
Authentication required for groups.perl.org on server
`groups.pm.org': 
Username: anotheranne
Password: 
Could not open collection:
403 Forbidden
dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? 
dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? ls
The `ls' command can only be used when connected to the server.
Try running `open' first (see `help open' for more details).
dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? help open
 `open URL'   Open connection to given URL
dav:/groups/za.pm.org/? open http://za.pm.org/
Could not access / (not WebDAV-enabled?):
405 Method Not Allowed
Connection to `za.pm.org' closed.
dav:!>   


??

thus not sure where to go next. Maybe supp...@pm.org are incorrect.
Since the za-pm site is visible, it must have been done?

What do you think, I want to be certain of my facts before I go back to
supp...@pm.org  -- don't want to look a bigger fool than I am  ;)

Anne

(I see you did copy the list)


On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:16:20 +0200
Edoardo Sabadelli  wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Anne Wainwright
>  wrote:
> 
> > Now I had also promised pm_groups that I would get our web site up
> > to date. Time for action. Our website.
> >
> > http://za.pm.org/
> 
> \o/
> 
> > First I have to deal with Bitcard.
> > I have a Bitcard account with username and password.
> > Today I added the URL as a site to this.
> > I now have a Site Token & a API secret, both humungous random
> > strings
> 
> I'm not sure this is relevant for the WebDAV problem, but AFAIK is
> required for changing the account information, reset the password,
> etc...
> 
> > Before this, back in April, I had recorded from somewhere a WebDav
> > user name and password which must have come from somewhere, but not
> > in any email that I find.
> 
> It was probably here: https://svn.perl.org/accounts/, after loggin in
> via Bitcard.
> 
> > http://groups.pm.org/faq.html#maintaining_my_groups_website
> >
> > is not particularly clear to me in my present state of knowledge.
> >
> > I downloaded and installed cadaver to connect, but cannot get it to
> > connect to the site using that name and password. Whether the
> > problem is to do with said name and password per se, or with
> > getting the right command line, I cannot say.
> 
> I would suggest to try to recover the password and see what happens.
> It might be that unused accounts are disabled or something like that.
> The URL https://groups.pm.org/groups/za seems working, as it asks me
> the username/password for authentication when trying to connect via
> WebDAV.
> 
> What kind of error/message is returned when trying to authenticate?
> 
> > [I assumed that if I got connected I could 'get' the files and see
> > what was there, which is the whole point of the current exercise.]
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > But no luck. If anyone has the knowledge to baby-step me through
> > this process I'd appreciate some help. I don't understand what is
> > the relationship with these different things.
> 
> I don't have any direct experience with Bitcard, svn.perl.org, and the
> PM groups, but by reading the FAQ you linked and some other stuff on
> svn.perl.org and Bitcard, what I understand is that Bitcard is simply
> a single sign-on system for different sites under perl.org, while
> WebDAV is only a meaning of accessing the group site's static files
> hosted on groups.pm.org.
> 
> So, in conclusion, it might only be a problem with the credentials
> used in WebDAV, or the account/access has been deactivated... or some
> other more intricated problem ;)
> 
> > Otherwise I will have to ask for assistance from pm_groups and I
> > would rather not do that - better to cope ourselves I feel.
> 
> It might be that the account has been inactivated, see:
> http://groups.pm.org/faq.html#how_do_i_request_a_new_group_or_to_reactivate_a_group_that_has_been_inactive
> 
> HTH,
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[za-pm] Getting connected to the za-pm website. bitcard, webdav, cadaver, and all that!

2010-06-28 Thread Anne Wainwright
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Hi,

I have been otherwise for some while, but have finally shed one of my
major preoccupations as promised.

Now I had also promised pm_groups that I would get our web site up to
date. Time for action. Our website.

http://za.pm.org/

- which currently is showing a 7 year-old face to the world. I had taken
some steps to look at this without any success at an earlier stage. No
success then, and none now.

First I have to deal with Bitcard.
I have a Bitcard account with username and password.
Today I added the URL as a site to this.
I now have a Site Token & a API secret, both humungous random strings

Before this, back in April, I had recorded from somewhere a WebDav user
name and password which must have come from somewhere, but not in any
email that I find.

http://groups.pm.org/faq.html#maintaining_my_groups_website

is not particularly clear to me in my present state of knowledge.

I downloaded and installed cadaver to connect, but cannot get it to
connect to the site using that name and password. Whether the problem
is to do with said name and password per se, or with getting the right
command line, I cannot say.

[I assumed that if I got connected I could 'get' the files and see what
was there, which is the whole point of the current exercise.]

But no luck. If anyone has the knowledge to baby-step me through this
process I'd appreciate some help. I don't understand what is the
relationship with these different things.

Otherwise I will have to ask for assistance from pm_groups and I would
rather not do that - better to cope ourselves I feel.

bestest
Anne



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