Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-31 Thread Gabriel
It was the BBC Radio Jazz from Hell shows, and the GTOs album was
there as a bonus, everything in data format, not audio, in the same
cd.
Now, I was the last person to pass it along, and the story then goes
pretty much as Marco´s. Except that he is a smarter person than I am.
While he´s trying to keep the MITB vine alive, I only tried to contact
the next person in the vine list (to see if he got the cd I had sent)
and never got an answer. A long time has passed since then, but I
suppose I can make a copy of my cd and send it to the next person in
the list after the member who couldn´t do his part, if you guys still
want it. I don´t have the names list anymore, though.

Gabriel

On 7/31/05, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also have the GTO disk, I think it is what was accompanying it is what I
> was interested in even though I have forgotten exactly what it was. Was it
> the groupie thing?
> - Original Message - 
> From: John Goddard 
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines
> 
> I can start a new GTO's vine if needed at the drop of a hat no problem an
> Audio without artwork or Flac with Artwork just give me a shout and its in
> the post
> on its way pronto to wherever!
>  
> John 
> - Original Message - 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:58 PM
> Subject: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines
> 
> I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this as a problem.
> But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to suggest solutions...
>  
> Skull
> It also happened to the Jazz from hell/GTos vine, effectively killing
> it I suppose.
> 
> Gabriel
> 
> 
> On 7/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of thing from
> happening
> > again? This same thing happened to me, but 
> > unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. 
> >  
> > Mr. Skull
> > So far no news from Richard Hall... Next week I'm leaving for a 3 weeks'
> > vacation and I'll be back at the end of August. I don't know what to do
> and
> > I'm asking for an advice: should I
> > a) wait till then and, if the situation is still the same, make another
> > shipment to the next guy in the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), or
> > b) do this right now to speed up the whole thing, or
> > c) not give a damn about this? ;-)
> >  
> > On July 1st I sent to Richard the 8 HP CDs I received, so I'll have to do
> a
> > copy from my copies - but I think this won't be a big problem.
> > Let me know.
> > thanks
> > mm
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-31 Thread Richard





I also have the GTO disk, I think it is what was 
accompanying it is what I was interested in even though I have forgotten exactly 
what it was. Was it the groupie thing?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 12:33 
AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
  vines
  
  I can start a new GTO's vine if needed 
  at the drop of a hat no problem an Audio without artwork or Flac with Artwork 
  just give me a shout and its in the post
  on its way pronto to 
  wherever!
   
  John 
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:58 
PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
vines

I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this 
as a problem.
But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to 
suggest solutions...
 
Skull

  It also happened to the Jazz from hell/GTos vine, effectively 
  killingit I suppose.GabrielOn 7/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:> The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of 
  thing from happening> again? This same thing happened to me, but 
  > unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. 
  >  > Mr. Skull> So far no news from Richard 
  Hall... Next week I'm leaving for a 3 weeks'> vacation and I'll be 
  back at the end of August. I don't know what to do and> I'm asking 
  for an advice: should I> a) wait till then and, if the situation is 
  still the same, make another> shipment to the next guy in the list 
  ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), or> b) do this right now to speed 
  up the whole thing, or> c) not give a damn about this? 
  ;-)>  > On July 1st I sent to Richard the 8 HP CDs I 
  received, so I'll have to do a> copy from my copies - but I think 
  this won't be a big problem.> Let me know.> thanks> 
  mm> > > --> No virus found in this outgoing 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-31 Thread Richard





Well, unless they had a very good reason I would 
drink to that one! I know it can be hard juggling when there are a lot of vines 
doing the rounds, but unless some sort of life crisis occurs there is no excuse 
for not forfilling your obligation. Now I am not without sympathy for 
anyone's plight, but a promise is a promise. Just give the person the chance to 
explain and a chance to make amends first before exclusion is what I think. 


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2005 2:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
  vines
  That is a fine idea for certain situations. But what do we 
  do with thosepeople who kill a vine dead right in the middle of it's 
  progression?I suggest that if certain names keep coming up that we keep a 
  list of themin the 'files' section for this group. and this doesn't in 
  anyway implyany ill intent on anyone's part. But for various reasons, well 
  meaningindividuals may drop the ball, affecting others down the line.i 
  can think of one person who fits this description, but will not 
  mention.Fortunately they are not active on this list. But I lost discs to 
  thisperson, and would find a way to politely exclude them from anything 
  thatever originates with me in the future. And that is another 
  possiblesolution right there...Mr. Skull> What exactly 
  can you do but hop over someone that isn't answering and is> next in 
  line for the vine. You can try a few times over a couple of days> to 
  get them to respond through the list, but the vine must move on> 
  efficiently to be fair to the others.> I would guess you then just add 
  their name to the end of the linage and> hope that they are available 
  when it reaches the end of  the line.> What else can you 
  do?>   - Original Message ->   From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>   To: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com>   Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 
  9:58 PM>   Subject: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
  vines>>>   I won't speak for anyone else, but I 
  see this as a problem.>   But I'll leave it to the 'elder' 
  members to suggest solutions...>>   
  Skull





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Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-30 Thread jcoonk





Hmmm...
I do not (and will not) support a "list" of "deadbeats"...
I rather favor Richard's idea of skipping over those who do not respond in 
a timely manner. Many members are on the digest system; many more do not receive 
any email from the group at all, they prefer to check the site. But that doesn't 
allow for negligence on a viner's part. Being part of a vine means keeping track 
of that vine...
No "lists" please, it fucks with my digestion.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:06 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
  vines
  
  That is a fine idea for certain situations. But what do we do with 
  thosepeople who kill a vine dead right in the middle of it's 
  progression?I suggest that if certain names keep coming up that we keep a 
  list of themin the 'files' section for this group. 
  > What exactly can you do but hop over someone that isn't answering 
  and is> next in line for the vine. 





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Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-30 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull
That is a fine idea for certain situations. But what do we do with those
people who kill a vine dead right in the middle of it's progression?
I suggest that if certain names keep coming up that we keep a list of them
in the 'files' section for this group. and this doesn't in anyway imply
any ill intent on anyone's part. But for various reasons, well meaning
individuals may drop the ball, affecting others down the line.
i can think of one person who fits this description, but will not mention.
Fortunately they are not active on this list. But I lost discs to this
person, and would find a way to politely exclude them from anything that
ever originates with me in the future. And that is another possible
solution right there...

Mr. Skull

> What exactly can you do but hop over someone that isn't answering and is
> next in line for the vine. You can try a few times over a couple of days
> to get them to respond through the list, but the vine must move on
> efficiently to be fair to the others.
> I would guess you then just add their name to the end of the linage and
> hope that they are available when it reaches the end of  the line.
> What else can you do?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:58 PM
>   Subject: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines
>
>
>   I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this as a problem.
>   But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to suggest solutions...
>
>   Skull




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Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-30 Thread John Goddard





I can start a new GTO's vine if needed at 
the drop of a hat no problem an Audio without artwork or Flac with Artwork just 
give me a shout and its in the post
on its way pronto to 
wherever!
 
John 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:58 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
  vines
  
  I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this as 
  a problem.
  But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to 
  suggest solutions...
   
  Skull
  
It also happened to the Jazz from hell/GTos vine, effectively 
killingit I suppose.GabrielOn 7/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:> The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of thing 
from happening> again? This same thing happened to me, but > 
unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. >  > 
Mr. Skull> So far no news from Richard Hall... Next week I'm leaving 
for a 3 weeks'> vacation and I'll be back at the end of August. I 
don't know what to do and> I'm asking for an advice: should I> 
a) wait till then and, if the situation is still the same, make 
another> shipment to the next guy in the list 
([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), or> b) do this right now to speed up 
the whole thing, or> c) not give a damn about this? ;-)>  
> On July 1st I sent to Richard the 8 HP CDs I received, so I'll have 
to do a> copy from my copies - but I think this won't be a big 
problem.> Let me know.> thanks> mm> > 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-30 Thread Richard





What exactly can you do but hop over someone that 
isn't answering and is next in line for the vine. You can try a few times over a 
couple of days to get them to respond through the list, but the vine must 
move on efficiently to be fair to the others.
I would guess you then just add their name to the 
end of the linage and hope that they are available when it reaches the end 
of  the line. 
What else can you do?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2005 9:58 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Pruners to our 
  vines
  
  I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this as 
  a problem.
  But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to 
  suggest solutions...
   
  Skull
  
It also happened to the Jazz from hell/GTos vine, effectively 
killingit I suppose.GabrielOn 7/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:> The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of thing 
from happening> again? This same thing happened to me, but > 
unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. >  > 
Mr. Skull> So far no news from Richard Hall... Next week I'm leaving 
for a 3 weeks'> vacation and I'll be back at the end of August. I 
don't know what to do and> I'm asking for an advice: should I> 
a) wait till then and, if the situation is still the same, make 
another> shipment to the next guy in the list 
([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), or> b) do this right now to speed up 
the whole thing, or> c) not give a damn about this? ;-)>  
> On July 1st I sent to Richard the 8 HP CDs I received, so I'll have 
to do a> copy from my copies - but I think this won't be a big 
problem.> Let me know.> thanks> mm> > 
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[Zappa-List] Pruners to our vines

2005-07-30 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull





I won't speak for anyone else, but I see this as a 
problem.
But I'll leave it to the 'elder' members to 
suggest solutions...
 
Skull

  It also happened to the Jazz from hell/GTos vine, effectively 
  killingit I suppose.GabrielOn 7/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  wrote:> The question I have is how can we prevent this sort of thing 
  from happening> again? This same thing happened to me, but > 
  unfortunately I was a moron and sent my only copies. >  > 
  Mr. Skull> So far no news from Richard Hall... Next week I'm leaving 
  for a 3 weeks'> vacation and I'll be back at the end of August. I don't 
  know what to do and> I'm asking for an advice: should I> a) wait 
  till then and, if the situation is still the same, make another> 
  shipment to the next guy in the list ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - US), 
  or> b) do this right now to speed up the whole thing, or> c) not 
  give a damn about this? ;-)>  > On July 1st I sent to 
  Richard the 8 HP CDs I received, so I'll have to do a> copy from my 
  copies - but I think this won't be a big problem.> Let me know.> 
  thanks> mm> > > --> No virus found in this 
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