Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-29 Thread abxer3p





I'd be interested in hearing the tweezed version, too, 
and the setlist looks *very* interesting! Go for it.

Joseph


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  Hi Sofa,I'm so glad you've made all that effort, 
  research and more.I will gladly accept it as it sits now - thank you 
  :-DBut if you are going to take your precious time and tweak it for your 
  own good I'd also be very much interested in hearing the result. On 
  replacing songs with tracks from another show - God forbid on non enhancened 
  version ;-). But on the tweaked one - why not - it could be good idea - 
  YCDTOSA Vol. 7 sorta thing...;-)Just my two centsBest 
  wishesBartPS. I've already gotten Das Genie Frank Zappa ZDF 
  documentary. Awaiting for A Day With Frank film, and then will offer it to the 
  group as a vin...CheersBartFor further 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-29 Thread SOFA





Well, the obvious has been done - correct track separation. Now I have to 
find a City of Tiny Lights with a similar sound and solo (shouldn't be too 
tough; FZ played that "Aint Necessarily So" solo several times). Once that track 
is repaired, I'll be looking to do the same with "Illinois Enema Bandit" - tho a 
comparable solo there will not be as easy to hunt down.
Correct those two tracks and I should be able to do something about the 
upper and lower level 'munge' that's blocking out some good middle range stuff. 
At least, I think I can...
SOFA

  
  SOFA
  I am currently in use 
  ofSoundforge 7 but am but a baby withthis and wouldnt like 
  to offer anything out until both technical proficient and musically 
  heartfelt at the results it just wouldn't be right! keep it in house for the 
  time being.
  Good luck SOFA With your 
  endeavours!
  
  John


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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-28 Thread Bart
Hi Sofa,

I'm so glad you've made all that effort, research and more.
I will gladly accept it as it sits now - thank you :-D
But if you are going to take your precious time and tweak it for your own good 
I'd also be very much interested in hearing the result. 

On replacing songs with tracks from another show - God forbid on non enhancened 
version ;-). 
But on the tweaked one - why not - it could be good idea - YCDTOSA Vol. 7 sorta 
thing...;-)

Just my two cents
Best wishes
Bart

PS. I've already gotten Das Genie Frank Zappa ZDF documentary. Awaiting for A 
Day With Frank film, and then will offer it to the group as a vin...

Cheers
Bart


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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread David Golden
Polish the turd.


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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread John Goddard





sofa
Just as a matter of interest as Zappa 
list is technical at the mome ??
What type of software does one use to 
polish a Frank Zappa concertTurd (Not Frank Himself, a concert by Frank+, 
Hideously recorded?)

John

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  L 
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  Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:05 
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  I’d 
  trust your treatment and being basically lazy would prefer not to have to do 
  it myself. 
  
  
  Jim L 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of SOFASent: Monday, June 27, 2005 5:15 
  PMTo: the ListSubject: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene 
  Delemma
  
  
  Hey Kids!
  
  I think I'd like some opinions, if you'd be so 
  kind.
  
  Thanks to brother Bart, in Poland, I have sought out 
  the recording of 801130, Des Moines, IA - billed as 
  "The sickest songlist 
  you've ever seen". It's a B- audience recording (and IMO that 
  B- is kind; I'd rate it a C-). I intend to start a vine of this 
  show...
  
  Now I intend to rip this to my machine, and tweeze it 
  for my own enjoyment. I believe that I can improve upon the overall quality; 
  tho there are limits to what you can do, of course (a polished turd is still a 
  turd - FZ). My question to all of you out there: would you rather have a copy 
  warts and all, or would you rather have a SOFA tweezed 
  copy?
  
  PLEASE! Don't bother to respond to this with "I want a 
  copy when it's ready" - that is NOT part of the conversation right now. I 
  wanna know if the collectors out there would rather mess with it themselves 
  (if they mess with it at all), or listen to a "pure" artifact. I'd also love 
  to know if a cleaner copy of this show exists, but I kinda doubt 
  it.
  
  For example: the Illinois Enema Bandit encore on my 
  copies does not include Sweet Lelani - it cuts off just as the solo starts to 
  roll. And - I think - it's Pick Me I'm Clean that has a nasty warble, until 
  the song finally just cuts out. I would replace these with (god forbid) tracks 
  from around the same time... I wanna seriously mess with this mofo; because 
  right now, I find it damn near unlistenable. But that's me. I really wanna 
  know what you guys think. Because I will gladly pass on this turd as it 
  sits...
  
  Let the debate begin...
  
  Regards,
  
  SOFA
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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread SOFA





There are lots of nice audio editing suites out there John; I happen to use 
Soundforge 4.5. This is an old program that was given to me a long time ago... 
They have since upgraded to a 6 or better? Anyway, Sonic Foundry, who make it, 
have their shit together afa I'm concerned.
Editing programs can be costly; I'd find someone with a Soundforge program 
who'd be willing to share with you - as I did. I like Soundforge because of it's 
ease. I had no manual, or instructions with it and I could operate it 
immediately (and I am like supremely stupid with techie things).
CoolEdit is another program that's kinda popular...
I bet JimL could quote a raft of options.
For my money - or complete lack thereof - it's Soundforge.
SOFA

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  Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:22 
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  Hygiene Delemma
  
  sofa
  Just as a matter of interest as Zappa 
  list is technical at the mome ??
  What type of software does one use to 
  polish a Frank Zappa concertTurd (Not Frank Himself, a concert by 
  Frank+, Hideously recorded?)
  
  John


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