you said i was not zen enough ..as if you are an expert?
my target at this moment is to bottle the seville marmalade i am in the
process of making
and 20 days down the track have it on toast in the morning
when i can zen through the day
with my gossamer wings praying
merle
You do now!
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
one for you Bill! question: do i have a smile on my lips?..merle
Merle,
I didn't watch the video. I just guessed from the description. That sentence
was just chum in the waters.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
so you did watch the german's jumping in the water bed...you told me NOT to
send such
Merle,
READ THIS POST CAREFULLY
I NEVER said you posted 'crap' and I NEVER said you were 'off course' and I
NEVER said you are not 'zen enough' - whatever that means.
You continue to read my posts and then spit them back at me while interjecting
some kind of personal references or
Self'/no-self', 'mind'/'no-mind' - such beliefs (or opinions if you
prefer to think personal attachments differ from personal expressions of
them) are hindrances, but being 'empty' can only appear to hinder.
So long as such stories are appealing, you will pursue them. Doing so,
one imagines
aren't appearances too, just THIS!? and hindrances for that matter?
On 10/6/12, Kristopher Grey k...@kgrey.com wrote:
Self'/no-self', 'mind'/'no-mind' - such beliefs (or opinions if you
prefer to think personal attachments differ from personal expressions of
them) are hindrances, but being
KG,
The only hindrance is self.
When self melts away so does self/no-self, mind/no-mind, beliefs, opinions,
appearances, hindrances/encouragements, etc... Self follows a path. Without
self there is no path to follow, nowhere to go. Just THIS!
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com,
yonyonson604,
I'm assuming you've addressed this post to Kris so I'll let him respond. If
you've addressed it to me let me know.
...and say hello to yonyonson602 and 603 for me too while you're at it.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, yonyonson@... wrote:
aren't appearances too, just THIS!?
Bill!..then i mis- understood your posts and am truly sorry,..you did watch
the germans jumping on the waterbed... eh?
what am i to do Bill!?
.send stuff like that or not?..
.one member of the group wants this stuff another does not.
.i like to share.
..i get lots of of stuff from all
whenever I post, let any with a response, respond...
k, just watch out for yonyonson607 ;-) he may be a prime suspect
*whaa whaaa whaa*
On 10/6/12, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
yonyonson604,
I'm assuming you've addressed this post to Kris so I'll let him respond. If
you've
why did you not watch it bill!..can we drop the !... it's hard work
sorry i thought you did!
merle
Merle,
I didn't watch the video. I just guessed from the description. That sentence
was just chum in the waters.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@...
bill..that is truly beautiful..thank you for sharing!..i love it..makes my
heart feel all warm and fuzzy!,,merle
You do now!
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
one for you Bill! question: do i have a smile on my lips?..merle
Merle,
PLEASE READ THIS POST CAREFULLY
Don't take everything I say too seriously. I don't control the Zen Forum. I
play in the Zen Forum.
I did NOT watch the video of the waterbed.
You should continue to do whatever you want to do. I appreciate your
participation in the Zen Forum, as
Merle,
I already told you why I didn't watch the video. The description didn't
interest me.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
Â
 why did you not watch it bill!..can we drop the !... it's hard work
sorry i thought you did!
 merle
Â
what a wet blanket he is!. a nark to put in mildly!
.evolve mr. guru
embracing zen is NOT about sitting on tiny rubbery mats for 2/3 hours
breathing in and out going blue in the face and getting blood clots in one's
legs
at the end of the day
you embrace life with zen
and practise on
a target: bull eye!..merle
Merle,
Jim was asking for advice. I gave him a little peek at 'my way'.
I don't think you're 'off course', but then having a course implies you have a
destination, a target. Do you? If so what is it?
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester
right...so you judge a book by it's cover too?,,merle
Merle,
I already told you why I didn't watch the video. The description didn't
interest me.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
Â
 why did you not watch it bill!..can we drop the
Merle,
Don't hold back on this. Tell us what you really think...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
what a wet blanket he is!. a nark to put in mildly!
.evolve mr. guru
 embracing zen is NOT about sitting on tiny rubbery  mats for 2/3 hours
Merle,
Absolutely! Or in this case the blurb on the inside and back of its
jacket...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 right...so you judge a book by it's cover too?,,merle
Â
Merle,
I already told you why I didn't watch the video.
jesus..that's bloody insight for ya!
the old saying goes: never judge a book by it's cover and a man by his
clothes
merle
Merle,
Absolutely! Or in this case the blurb on the inside and back of its
jacket...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
...Bill!
Merle,
There is only NOW! The past is a memory and the future is a projection - all
illusory.
Only NOW! Just THIS!
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 jesus bill..you sound like your building up to something big!
 woh !..an
later Bill!... the dinner gong has rung NOW!
..take it easy.
you you old devil you!
your playing mind games
remember the old song: mind games: john lennon?
..merle
Merle,
Don't hold back on this. Tell us what you really think...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester
chew over these..merle
http://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/3269256-island
for one moment our lives met
our souls touched
oscar wilde
read this book?bill!..merle
http://www.huxley.net/island/
for one moment our lives met
our souls touched
oscar wilde
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrD1KihFyj0
for one moment our lives met
our souls touched
oscar wilde
Merle,
Like you say, that's an old saying - an old, old saying, and you know what they
say about old sayings, There are two kinds of people in this world: those
that believe old sayings and those that don't.
Seriously though I didn't judge the video, I made a decision (judgement) based
on
beautiful..merle
...Bill!
good night...for NOW...merle
Merle,
There is only NOW! The past is a memory and the future is a projection - all
illusory.
Only NOW! Just THIS!
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 jesus bill..you sound like your building up to
What book?
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
read this book?bill!..merle
http://www.huxley.net/island/
for one moment our lives met
our souls touched
oscar wilde
Current Book Discussion: any Zen
No, I have not read the book ISLAND. I have read a couple others by Huxley:
ANIMAL FARM and 1984...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
What book?
http://www.huxley.net/island/
merle
Merle,
I have not read ISLAND.
I have read the following books by Aldous Huxley:
- BRAVE NEW WORLD
- EYELESS IN GAZA
- DOORS OF PERCEPTION
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
What book?
http://www.huxley.net/island/
merle
LOL! Merle Sensei is getting Bill to loosen up and enjoy himself! He's coming
back to play in the world of forms and causality again..
This btw is my baby photo too, and everyone else's. We were all born in the
same crib...
Edgar
On Oct 6, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Bill! wrote:
...Bill!
Even Calvin and Hobbes know this...
...Bill!
i suggest you do bill!... merle
Merle,
I have not read ISLAND.
I have read the following books by Aldous Huxley:
- BRAVE NEW WORLD
- EYELESS IN GAZA
- DOORS OF PERCEPTION
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
What book?
HISTORY...Please!..merle
Subject: [Zen] Hisorty
Even Calvin and Hobbes know this...
...Bill!
indeed..merle
LOL! Merle Sensei is getting Bill to loosen up and enjoy himself! He's coming
back to play in the world of forms and causality again..
This btw is my baby photo too, and everyone else's. We were all born in the
same crib...
Edgar
On Oct 6, 2012, at 4:02 AM, Bill!
Bill,
Actually more to the point the entire past is an illusion that exists only as a
logical projection from the present...
Edgar
On Oct 6, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Bill! wrote:
Even Calvin and Hobbes know this...
...Bill!
Elder's Meditation of the Day - October 6
Lots of people hardly ever feel real soil
under their feet, see plants grow except in
flower pots, or get far enough beyond the
street light to catch the enchantment of a
night sky studded with stars. When people
live far from scenes
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It appears so.
KG
On 10/6/2012 2:46 AM, yonyon...@gmail.com wrote:
aren't appearances too, just THIS!? and hindrances for that matter?
On 10/6/12, Kristopher Grey k...@kgrey.com mailto:kris%40kgrey.com
wrote:
Self'/no-self', 'mind'/'no-mind' - such beliefs (or opinions if you
prefer to
read the island..the ones you have read are great but the island is a
masterpiece!
.i read it as a kiddy donkey's years ago picked it at library thinking it was a
children's adventure book
and re read it several times as an adult..brilliant.
.also take the time out to read perennial
jala-uddin rumi
sell your cleverness and buy bewilderment;
cleverness is mere opinion,
bewilderment is intuition
Merle
www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
Dear Cousin Merle,
Pul-eeeze don't use the word in this way.
It makes my toupee shrivel.
There are no belts in Zen practice: we may be Kung Fu, but have no belts. The
breathing should be unrestricted about the hara, the tan tien.
Only belt is: A belt, I'll give you!: Or 20, or 40. ;-)
The
Yes.
But who is it who is aware of that identity? Maybe nobody.
That one is worth finding. That's why we practice. But not everyone -- and
not everyone here -- practices. It's worthwhile to do so, in order to
appreciate the identities, and the differences. Else, it's all a mish-mash,
and
Yonyonson,
That's higher than I can count, anyway.
A sweetheart of mine had a cat named Pretty602, a female tortie. Actually,
all torties are female, it's a sex-linked fur expression.
--Joe601/half-a-dozen-of-another
yonyonson@... wrote:
k, just watch out for yonyonson607 ;-) he may be
Merle,
Clothes make the Man!; but I prefer naked books.
I keep the dust jackets in a pile, at the city recycling and reclamation
center. They get in the way of my reading. Maybe I should pile them at home
for resale; a used book is worth more if it has its jacket.
A man in this hot desert
Bill!,
Please give the photographer some credit! [even if (s)he'd prefer Cash].
--Joe
Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
Here's an old photograph of me.
...Bill!
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about
Merle,
WHAT mind?
John didn't get that _that_ is the game. Maybe didn't live long enuf.
Or, look at it a different way.
--Joe
PS (song OK, as far as it goes/went).
Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
remember the old song: mind games: john lennon?
Big-Bang is a theory that will probably be replaced nine times in the next
millennium. Ad infinitum. Wait and see!
And, the photo might be concocted.
Some latter-day wannabee Immortal PhotoShopped it, I suspect. ;-)
--Joe
Edgar Owen edgarowen@... wrote:
This btw is my baby photo too,
CLICK ON LINK BELOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hzgzim5m7oU
Thank you for your thoughts. I think you are right, for after all, I am still
being dualistic. The problem is that I can't find the lemon to bite into.
For example, I have three kinds of emptiness meditations, but none of them
could be correct because none of them enlighten me. Although they
you might already be enlightened have you considered this?.
.searching for the light with a broomstick is about what you seem to be doing
here
merle
Thank you for your thoughts. I think you are right, for after all, I am still
being dualistic. The problem is that I can't find the
On 10/6/2012 10:58 PM, jfnewell7 wrote:
But none of those are right, because they didn't cause me to become
enlightened.
Likewise then none are wrong, because none prevent realizing this.
Realizing this, being a redundant (thus hopelessly dualistic)
expression. This, however it may appear,
Yes, certainly, technically, if one is meditating and then thinks of the past
or future, it tends to add some chaos to the meditation.
However, I wonder if this as an absolute. In Stryke, Lucien and Takashi
Ikemoto, (1965), ZEN: POEMS, PRAYERS, SSERMONS, ANECDOTES, INTERVIEWS, Garden
City:
I don't see how. There are good teachers who can do a lot of things I can't do.
Jim
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester merlewiitpom@... wrote:
 you might already be enlightened have you considered this?.
.searching for the light with a broomstick is about what you seem to
Darkness cannot be seen, as nothing presents but what is imagined absent.
KG
On 10/6/2012 11:03 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
you might already be enlightened have you considered this?.
.searching for the light with a broomstick is about what you seem to
be doing here
merle
Thank you for
On 10/6/2012 11:25 PM, jfnewell7 wrote:
However, if we can see the future in the NOW, that changes things.
Whether we can or can't is moot, as the future is presently imagined,
and the past is presently re-imagined ('re' indicating only a
redundancy/duality mind uses differentiate various
On 10/6/2012 11:25 PM, jfnewell7 wrote:
But this whole thing is something I don't really understand.
That's it!
Few realize this is not a problem.
KG
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about it
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