You don't do zazen, zazen does you.
If you've never had the thought arise that the timekeeper has made some
serious error, I find it difficult to believe what you write about zazen.
If you don't find it an amusing thought, or an amusing aspect of our
common humanity that we have such thoughts,
Memories are in the present - as the cognitive psych people say, every
access is a reframe.
I have a scab on my knee and a memory of falling on Curtner going to buy
movie tickets. Here I am typing some stuff.
If you believe your memories, it is no different than believing other
thoughts. Maybe
Interesting thread. Victor Frankl's Man's Search For Meaning was a very
significant book for me - his ability to assert meaning in an insane
environment is very heartening, even as the horror breaks your heart.
Courage is indeed the fundamental virtue, without which no other virtue
has much
is that the detailed relationship between determinism and
our subjective experience is still an open question.
Still, how is this:
On 11/27/2012 10:18 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
horrific depiction of humanity's depravity ... childhood abuse of a New
York woman ... The systemic horror of the holocaust
a title Gakudo Yojin-shu, which is
something like Points to Watch in Buddhist Training, or Practice: Izzat
it?.
tnx!
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
Have either one of you read the Gabyo chapter of Dogen's Shobogenzo ?
[snip]
Current
it here please?
Thanks,
Edgar
On Nov 24, 2012, at 10:54 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
Have either one of you read the Gabyo chapter of Dogen's Shobogenzo ? it
seems to address the issue you are disagreeing on. I have read it but
can't claim understanding, tho it seems to be taking a sort
person say, instead of the cogito?
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
Have either one of you read the Gabyo chapter of Dogen's Shobogenzo ?
[snip]
Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
reading! Talk about it today
this.
Perhaps by logic you mean something other than a formal system of
reasoning?
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 25, 2012, at 15:44, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Chris,
That's a complete misunderstanding of what Godel's Incompleteness proof
does...
Edgar
a day as do many people. It's ridiculous to
suggest that the contexts of all those posts should be remembered or looked
up.
Edgar
On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
Sorry multiple phone word auto.corrects hit that post. Not clear indeed.
Should read:
Not remembering
Have either one of you read the Gabyo chapter of Dogen's Shobogenzo ? it
seems to address the issue you are disagreeing on. I have read it but
can't claim understanding, tho it seems to be taking a sort of dialectical
synthesis between your two positions.
A picture of a cake will not feed you,
On Nov 22, 2012 8:04 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
Bearing in mind that all things fall apart, so that some quality
enlightened cannot possibly be statically true of some Composite object
like a person (I.e. your statement is void of meaning), it is certainly
true that one can eyeball to eyeball
Frankly I am less suspicious when I have to pay some reasonable fee for
sesshin than when I eat the free veggie food from the Hari Krishna's.
We live in a money economy and paying a bit for food and lodging seems
fairly far from exploitation, especially given the availability of
scholarships. At
If a great wave of admiration arises in you, then be the best possible
person with a great wave of admiration that you can be.
On Nov 20, 2012 2:24 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
joe...hero worshipping is not within the realms of the zen spirit!...merle
Edgar,
OK, if
One of Joko Beck's books has a chapter that is a dharma talk about
religion, which she interprets as re-joining things which were thought to
be separate.
Zen is not a belief system but people mean many things by religion many of
which do apply to zen.
On Nov 20, 2012 2:52 PM, Joe
as my first teacher would say in the intro to Zen talks, Traditional Zen
had been around a long time and had the kinks worked out of the system. It
is not perfect but it is fairly dependable.
On Nov 18, 2012 8:41 AM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Edgar,
Old habits die hard, here. My
I am relieved. Thanks for letting us know.
On Nov 15, 2012 11:26 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
all good tests came back..ok...have an upper chest infection...
..the doc was overly concerned because i had that chest pain episode that
sent me to hospital on friday
Dharma gates is how we usually chanted that line, or sometimes:
Reality is boundless, I vow to perceive it.
I liked the idea of mastering various dharma gates, the gate of suffering,
the dharma gate of zazen, the dharma gate of service, the dharma gate of
love, the dharma gates of walking,
emphasize that the important thing is not to split ourselves.
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
I would agree completely with this email except that sometimes it is
appropriate to attend to a broader scope than one narrow part.
[snip]
Current
.
Will you go ahead and please take a turn to answer your own question? I
wonder what you may have in mind by now, Chris.
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
As KG is not here and you are talking about the effortless state of
Buddhas, I am forced to ask how this splitting would
There is a funny story about this:
A Zen teacher was out at a coffee shop, reading the paper and drinking
coffee. Some students observed this and exclaimed You are always telling
us that when we are drinking coffee we should just drink coffee! the
teacher laughed and said and when reading and
to sit with the group and sitting with the
group makes it easy to sit at home.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a meeting
On Nov 13, 2012, at 22:08, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
I agree with Chris. I think face-to-face interaction with your teacher
is essential - especially prior
http://www.treeleaf.org/about-treeleaf-teachers-jundo-taigu-and-our-lineage/
I am highly sceptical but again without much actual experience of it -- as
a Soto student and as a parent I put a lot of stock in face to face
transmission.
--Chris
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
Only One altogether - it is all one. One one one.
The problem is more with the my one way is right and your one [apparently
different] way is wrong.
The great way is trivial if you merely cease to pick and choose - your way,
my way, yeah!
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
busses, there are many chances
to leave your thoughts of yourself behind and just feel life flowing all
around.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:12, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Suresh,
It sounds good. You ought to be OK, then.
Thank
I really like Nate's methods. He just published a very good book on making
predictions - the key is to keep aware if the limits of what you know. And
now off to vote.
On Nov 6, 2012 12:35 AM, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
I know this is not like any other one you've seen. I think it's
Something are transitory like mist and some things are transient like the
humbly mountain falling into the sea. --Sensi Dougherty
On Nov 1, 2012 3:11 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
mountains are pure zen..merle
Merle,
I like that where have I been. That sounds promising!
When nothing is sacred, then everything is sacred
Also, praying for others is like donating ten bucks to a campaign - it
allows you to be ready for more substantive action later and allows you to
tell people you prayed for.X.
There are many sorts of prayer, asking for something specific is not
, ChrisAustinLane chris@... wrote:
Sometimes I can increase my clarity regarding some thought or other by
saying it aloud, and listening to my sounds.
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Oct 31, 2012, at 17:35, Bill! BillSmart@... wrote:
Chris,
You're correct
is lucky I merely replied by email - it would be much worse for him if I
had his real name and address...
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, 26 October 2012, 2:02
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] original zen
Full moon soon
On Oct 26, 2012 3:02 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Edgar,
Shakyamuni had five great teachers. He was their best student. He was in
fact an exemplary student. He practiced their way to the utmost, and he
became exhausted. He accepted a vessel of milk from the
Attention means: attention
There is no subject, no object, no goals
--Chris
Still writing from a sunny patio
On Oct 26, 2012 2:24 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
mike: to which one?..merle
Depends how much attention I'm paying ;)
why mike ... we are all but buddhas
Gautama is only half way across they say
On Oct 26, 2012 1:58 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
bill!..
it is so true...listen to edgar!
you ask me to take my thinking cap off...which would need major surgery..
yet you yourself are forever intellectualising and crying and
Me too!
On Oct 26, 2012 4:16 PM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Meh. I'm as fake as the me I think I am ; )
--
*From:* Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Saturday, 27 October 2012, 0:12
*Subject:* Re: [Zen]
My first reply was in response to my imagination of KG and the new guy in a
looping dialog. still waiting for Kris to return I guess
On Oct 26, 2012 3:46 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Chris,
I got it on the first go! ;-)
Cheers,
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote
You may as well just type:
there is nothing not Zenning thru our manifold reality
On Oct 26, 2012 1:19 PM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
YonYonson,
You ask the right question.
Zen is everything else - seen as its true nature..
There is nothing that is not Zen when properly
These new picture posts have lots and lots of base 64 encoded data but not
pictures for me
On Oct 26, 2012 4:38 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Mike,
BTW, the last person I saw express Meh was in an ad on one of these
boards just this minute:
img
There is nothing whatsoever to be clung to as 'me' or 'mine.'
On Oct 26, 2012 5:22 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Edgar,
He -- your Shakyamuni -- never truly had an own, and that's the only
reason why he was ABLE to awaken.
His teachers helped him to be CAPABLE to do so.
You
Bill,
Are you saying not a way or not the way?
--Chris
On Oct 24, 2012 10:47 PM, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
Edgar's explanations are NOT the way to find Buddha Nature, and if he and
you or anyone else continues to believe they are you'll be going farther
and farther away.
Please can you reply to a post from KG? Pretty please?
--Chris Ausin-Lane
sent from a train
1-301-270-6524
On Oct 25, 2012 4:47 PM, yonyon...@gmail.com wrote:
There's no need to speculate whether we are always aware, or not. We
just
are. Of course, some are not aware that we are always
that had a profound experience of deja vu then.
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, 26 October 2012, 1:09
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] original zen
Please can you reply to a post from KG? Pretty please?
--Chris
Like many other things, it would depend object circumstances
If you are actually afraid, your task is to accept the fear without
believing that fearful idea are reality.
I often have the experience of delayed fear - some car almost hits me, I
respond with action, but once I am ok and not hit,
Dear Suresh,
You hail from Chennai! What a great city. I spent three weeks there this
April working with some software engineers and bicycling around the city,
trying to learn how to buy coffee without embarrassing myself
Buddha nature and the like can't be explained so much, just experienced,
My teacher once commented (in response to my proposing to not deal with an
uncomfortable by saying, It will pass) Somethings pass like a bit of dew
in the morning, and some things pass like a mountain wearing down into the
sea.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Fri, Oct
Not in my spam box either I read using gmail
On Oct 18, 2012 4:56 PM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
are my emails ending up in your spam box..they are for me...what's going
on...merle
to me the zen is practise practise..as joe says..and it's not just
sitting cross-legged
Seems to me we (humans) are now the designated park managers for the
planet. hopefully our skill and motivation will improve in the next few
hundred years at this task liFe has given us
On Oct 16, 2012 11:09 PM, Bill! billsm...@hhs1963.org wrote:
Joe,
I never said that I thought everything
) are just another one of the numerous fauna and
flora living here, but think we are smart enough to know what's best for
the entire planet.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
Seems to me we (humans) are now the designated park managers for the
planet
planet.
...Bill!
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris@ wrote:
Seems to me we (humans) are now the designated park managers for the
planet. hopefully our skill and motivation will improve in the next
few
hundred years at this task liFe has given us
On Oct
I was always told to sit up straight. Slumping over is definitely not
zazen-ish.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 10:41 AM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Joe,
I recall you advising someone here about not using their muscles to hold
.
Mike
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 19:16
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Sitting straight
I was always told to sit up straight. Slumping over is definitely not
zazen-ish.
Thanks
I assure you if someone shot you whilst sitting with a dart gun with a
muscle relaxant your spine would fall over.
The effort may not be needed but the muscles certainly are.
On Oct 16, 2012 12:38 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Mike,
Yes, I did suggest that, here. That was me.
the Leaning Tower of Pisa
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
I assure you if someone shot you whilst sitting with a dart gun with a
muscle relaxant your spine would fall over.
The effort may not be needed but the muscles certainly are.
Current
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, 16 October 2012, 21:52
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Sitting straight
And that my friends is called practise.
On Oct 16, 2012 12:00 PM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote
seem to be
central to something that is largely untapped (at least in the west). Just
wondering if anyone else here has had such experiences.
Mike
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, 17 October 2012
. Are you assuming that there is some type of
constructivist mathematics that is physical mathematics or something as
opposed to human mathematics?
What's your response to the many-worlds quantum models of Deutsch?
Edgar
On Oct 10, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
On Wed, Oct
From the Sun's perspective it's probably all ok; the author of the next
version of A Natural History of Intelligent Species of the Milky Way
probably won't be too shocked by our past or likely futures. As a part of
nature, I do request my fellow humans to eat as little meat as possible,
eschew
Just to be clear here there is not currently a Quantum Theory of
Consciousness that is proposed - we don't understand the mechanics of
consciousness, and Penrose pointed out a resemblance between this lack and
the lack of understanding of what the decoherence/wave collapse operation
corresponds to
theory of wave function collapse
has been replaced by the theory of decoherence. There is NO wave function
'collapse'. It was one of several totally crackpot quantum interpretations
like the continually splitting universe interpretation.
Edgar
On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:58 PM, Chris Austin-Lane
Edgar,
Do you think then that there was no one doing zen before the advent of
quantum field theory? (Or, since you don't like the older interpretations,
before 1970)?
Thanks,
--Chris, who rather agrees that the experience of a non-dual perspective is
orthogonal to enjoying a bit of modern
Jim, Cantor proved that there are at least a countable infinity of
infinities (within a system of mathematics as recognized by humans).
Edgar, your writing below does not seem like a proof to me - it would be
compassionate if you labeled your speculations about physics as such,
rather than as
There are no beings cut off from the universe to save! We all hang
together.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM, jfnewell7 jfnewe...@yahoo.com wrote:
Can anyone come up with some creative new ideas which would help in my
research to
disappear...
Edgar
On Oct 10, 2012, at 8:14 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
Edgar is not a fan of Deutsch or the multiverse (non-cosmological) I
guess.
How do you explain the non-locality then?
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:00 PM
@... wrote:
The flowing part may be an illusion - certainly the idea
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Oct 9, 2012, at 6:21, Edgar Owen edgarowen@... wrote:
Bill,
First sentence is correct. But both kinds of time are NOT illusion.
The time
On Oct 9, 2012 9:02 AM, jfnewell7 jfnewe...@yahoo.com wrote:
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Joe desert_woodworker@... wrote:
I think no one here has advice that could be helpful, and I think you
are well familiar with the territory and technic.
Jim::: If I were adequately familiar with
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Chris,
Don't understand what you mean here. Can you give an example or two?
Edgar
On Sep 26, 2012, at 9:58 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
Not the comments themselves but you
. Without
these words there would be no forum and we would all go back to our caves.
B
Find what makes your heart sing…and do it!
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Tue, September 25, 2012 9:08:58 AM
Slight nit pick:
The universe has only lasted about 14,700 million years; not million
million years yet.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:07 AM, William Rintala brint...@bellsouth.netwrote:
sics. In geology we speak of hundreds of millions
:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Mon, September 24, 2012 1:16:48 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] the green dragon
Slight nit pick:
The universe has only lasted about 14,700 million years; not million
million years yet.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin
Take the appropriate turn when the chance arises!
If you do not see the way, you are on the way.
If you are wandering, that is not a problem.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 6:05 PM, siska_...@yahoo.com wrote:
**
Hi Bill,
I thought the Zen
-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:13 PM, siska_...@yahoo.com wrote:
**
Hello Chris,
Take the appropriate turn when the chance arises!
And I thought you're the one who'd say: what's appropriate?
Cheers,
Siska
--
*From: * Chris Austin-Lane ch
On Sep 12, 2012 5:06 AM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Hi Mike,
I rarely use most of the old words
from the texts since I find many of
them confused and overlapping.
The very nature of words.
But fresh language that captures the freshness of the current moment is
always welcome.
, Is there spirituality in Zen? Almost all Zen
forum said no, except one asked back, what do you mean by spirituality. :-)
I have learned a lot so far. Thank to everyone. JM
On 9/12/2012 9:06 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
JMJM: Did you ever read Journey to the West?
On Sep 12, 2012 8:24 AM, 覺妙精明
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, 12 September 2012, 17:04
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Pain Pleasure
It is like confidence - you can have intellectual comfort that a glass
walkway is safe and still get all twitchy when
://www.chine-informations.com/fichiers/jourwest.pdf
KG
On 9/12/2012 12:45 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
Journey to the West is a classic Chinese novel by Wu Cheng'en about the
Monkey King and his adventures to retrieve some Buddhist scrolls from India
for the Emperor (at the behest of
Kwan
Good luck! I hope they lessen your pain and leave you in good shape.
--Chris
On Sep 11, 2012 3:18 AM, Merle Lester merlewiit...@yahoo.com wrote:
i have to call it a day... it's 8:30pm..tues...big day 2 morrow to sort
out my bladder..play tomorrow...enjoy your day bill...cheers merle
Zazen itself will make you aware of pain and show you your mind's tendency
to create intense frustration at transient feeling states, which basically
hurts. Plus the knees eventually get sore, and if you have a bad back I
think that can hurt. My greatest challenge is usually itching, but then I
am
This alway just seemed like the organized persons way of organising zazen.
All that you write about pain and bliss and temporariness comes up in plain
old zazen as well. You just go back to the moment either way.
Except the effort to have a focus of attention, kind of.
But the zenners are like
That's not true - the evolutionary purpose of a heart is to allow larger
organisms. of course evolution is not really purpose driven, so it's more
fair to speak of function or perhaps.enabling adaptations. A suite of
changes allowing organisms to expand into niches needing larger size.
Not sure
And as stated, still not true. The evolutionary purpose of the heart is
size. Not that evolutionary purpose is a scientifically useful phrase.
On Sep 6, 2012 10:52 AM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Edgar,
Reread it, but I still read that 'the evolutionary purpose of the heart is
purpose being life.
Mike
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Thursday, 6 September 2012, 20:33
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: breaking through
And as stated, still not true. The evolutionary purpose of the heart
Too good to pass up: there is a middle way of people who see their
programming, accept themselves as they are, and act in the moment of
freedom to be the best incarnation of that programming they can.
Change is inevitable and impossible. Just do what you can right now.
On Sep 5, 2012 3:54 AM,
Email is best at short factual communication. Zen is traditionally taught
face to face with the meat being non-verbal, and the whole thing not being
about facts.
It is a tense relationship.
On Sep 5, 2012 12:48 PM, William Rintala brint...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Just an observation here. It
Just washing with nothing added is realization. Rice bowl, laundry,kids,
body, or bad habits, all same same.
--Chris
On Sep 2, 2012 4:35 AM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Mike,
Yes, the problem with these pithy 'in crowd' Zen sayings is that bowls can
be washed WITHOUT realization
This day it is the annotated Zen Forum.
On Sep 2, 2012 4:05 AM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Bill!,
Isn't it the Zen Buddhist Forum, at least by implication? Isn't it fair
to talk about comparisons?
ED, Just sit. Don't think. Just sit.
But if you do find yourself thinking,
other from now on then...
Mike
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sunday, 2 September 2012, 21:52
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: dancing with the daffodils
This day it is the annotated Zen Forum.
On Sep 2, 2012
society is out of balance
i question
merle
Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
Sent from a cell phone
On Aug 30, 2012, at 21:20, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
Chris,
Yes, well, I think so.
Do you disagree that Desire is for what one does not have,
and Attachment is to what one
Arg, Zen used as some noun that can be possessed!
Zenning is something we all do, tho we don't necessarily notice it.
On Aug 30, 2012 6:55 AM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Mike,
Everyone is alive, but everyone does not have Zen...
Edgar
On Aug 30, 2012, at 9:17 AM, mike brown
.
Like that.
Come on; speak English. Or at least, a bona fide language of SOME kind,
Chris? Eh?
;-)
--Joe
PS And, understand.
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
Attachment, my two cents:
some sort of mental blessing or investment in a mental phenomenon which
makes the target
No truth completely in words
On Aug 29, 2012 3:45 PM, Edgar Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Kristopher,
The notion that there is no such thing as truth which you seem to be
asserting is nonsense and certainly not Zen. Correct me if I'm wrong about
what you believe...
Edgar
On Aug 29,
Attachment, my two cents:
some sort of mental blessing or investment in a mental phenomenon which
makes the target seem more than just another mental entity; the opposite
being something like neither pushing away nor pulling towards.
On Aug 28, 2012 6:23 AM, mike brown uerusub...@yahoo.co.uk
If it could work to have some outside authority tell me the truth, I would
totally sign up for that.
Being responsible for not deceiving myself, for not having a fixed position
of safety, is harder than just being taken care of.
I can totally relate to why people seek shortcuts; though reality
I don't get the impression that not-born/not-dying means anything to.do
with reincarnation. it means the experience of being aware, the sauce of
sentience, is something to which beginning and ending do not apply. It is
like asking how hot was the water in response to someone saying that they
just
existential dilemma today. :)
Glenn
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
I don't get the impression that not-born/not-dying means anything to.do
with reincarnation. it means the experience of being aware, the sauce of
sentience, is something to which beginning
die
alone.
Bill
Find what makes your heart sing…and do it!
--
*From:* Chris Austin-Lane ch...@austin-lane.net
*To:* Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
*Sent:* Sun, August 26, 2012 3:05:02 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] Re: Hello
If it could work to have some outside
was at any time, though they
might not have been newcomers.
Ah, but you have a sangha and teacher. Already blessed!
Strong practice,
Thanks again, Cheers,
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote:
In my Sangha in Maryland, I was one of the youngest. In California,
about
half
I would say that it's not anything to achieve - missing it is something to
stop doing.
Varying people start to see this truth with varying amounts of practice.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 4:35 PM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
But
it to this day. It's better
for the stomach, maybe, than drinking cold water, he used to say. And I
think it has other benefits, besides. Drinking it is relaxing, too,
because we tend to linger over it, unlike drinking cold water, which we
chug down. ;-)
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote
a name
in Japanese... Za- somthing. No, not Zazen! Zasui, I think. It's been
years since I thought of it.
By the way, I've heard other parents say that having kids drove THEM to
drinking too, but at least your poison is Coffee, not the other. ;-)
--Joe
Chris Austin-Lane chris@... wrote
In my Sangha in Maryland, I was one of the youngest. In California, about
half are younger than I.
I am 44.
If I may take a US centric perspective for a moment, I, and perhaps people
my age and younger, find organizations dominated by baby boomers to be a
bit insufferable. They have a way of
I saw this quote on Facebok and though of our lengthly debate between our
variously awoken folks who cannot stop annoying and being annoyed by each
others garbage. May all be well.
Perhaps we can understand sometimes people like Vipassana and sometimes
people like a pathless cessation?
Though it
Sudden awakening has not been the only house of Zen. What you describe
looks to me like a common but not universal path.
Thanks,
--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Joe desert_woodwor...@yahoo.com wrote:
gth of the sudden opening (the strength of
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