[Zen] Re: Is there an objective?

2006-05-16 Thread dkotschessa
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Bill for letting me feel comfortable and welcomed. My question is, from the reading, it seems to indicate, slience, or emptiness or vacancy or nothingness is where we need to reach first!??? If so, then

Re: [Zen] Re: Is there an objective?

2006-05-16 Thread donald hwong
If no one else has any other input, then next question - what is real or truth? Namaste, Donald dkotschessa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you Bill for letting me feel comfortable and welcomed. My question

[Zen] Re: Is there an objective?

2006-05-16 Thread dkotschessa
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, donald hwong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If no one else has any other input, then next question - what is real or truth? Namaste, Donald Sit and see? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get to your groups with

Re: [Zen] Re: just a day

2006-05-16 Thread Jarvis Stamply
From: Susan Couldn't you both find a less harmful way of practicing zazen? http://www.fishinghurts.com/ I remember thinking the same thing one day when I was urinating. My pee-pee was hurting, and I thought Isn't there a less harmful way to pee? So I visited http://www.penis.com/ and found out

[Zen] Re: just a day

2006-05-16 Thread mtpathy
Couldn't you both find a less harmful way of practicing no fish were eaten that day,only caught and set free. lol i was begining to wonder if anyone was going to ask if i caught any fish or not :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Everything you need is

[Zen] Re: just a day

2006-05-16 Thread Blossom
Susan, I second what leafjoy said, I also release the fish immediately. I would NEVER eat another animal as I've been a vegetarian for over 20 years. I guess we could all take every single thing we do in life and weigh it to see how harmful it is to others. Like, shouldn't you walk to work

Re: [Zen] Re: just a day

2006-05-16 Thread Rodney Yasushi Horikawa
There¹s a Japanese Zen saying that says: When you catch the fish, forget the net. What are we ³fishing² for and what are we using to try to ³catch it²? :-) Gassho, Rodney On 5/16/06 6:05 PM, Blossom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Susan, I second what leafjoy said, I also release the fish

[Zen] Re: just a day

2006-05-16 Thread Susan
I'm not sure killing them is any worse than torturing them with sport fishing catch-and-release. Maybe I'm wrong about this. I'm sure glad I'm not a fish! Susan --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, mtpathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Couldn't you both find a less harmful way of practicing no