[zfs-discuss] Is It a SATA problem or there is something else !!!!!!

2008-10-06 Thread Anas Ayad
Hi there I post this problem in Xen discussion before but with different title, I thought it is something has to do with the memory .. so guys can you read the thread first !! http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=76870tstart=0 I tried this yesterday , I brought my friend

[zfs-discuss] Is It a SATA problem or there is something else !!!!!!

2008-10-06 Thread Anas Ayad
Hi there I post this problem in Xen discussion before but with different title, I thought it is something has to do with the memory .. so guys can you read the thread first !! http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=76870tstart=0 I tried this yesterday , I brought my friend

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Fusion-IO?

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
Just a thought, will we be able to split the ioDrive into slices and use it simultaneously as a ZIL and slog device? 5GB of write cache and 75GB of read cache sounds to me like a nice way to use the 80GB model. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
Very interesting idea, thanks for sharing it. Infiniband would definately be worth looking at for performance, although I think you'd need iSER to get the benefits and that might still be a little new: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/iser/Release-notes/. It's also worth bearing in

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is It a SATA problem or there is something else !!!!!!

2008-10-06 Thread Sanjeev
Anas, Are both (IDE and SATA) disks plugged in ? I had similar problems where the machine woudl just drop into GRUB and never boot up despite giving the right GRUB commands. I finally disconnected the IDE disk and things are fine now. Thanks and regards, Sanjeev. On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solved - a big THANKS to Victor Latushkin @ Sun / Moscow

2008-10-06 Thread Darren J Moffat
Fajar A. Nugraha wrote: On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Vasile Dumitrescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VMWare 6.0.4 running on Debian unstable, Linux bigsrv 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 24 13:59:41 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux Solaris is vanilla snv_90 installed with no GUI. in summary:

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: Re: ZSF Solaris]

2008-10-06 Thread Pramod Batni
Original Message Subject:Re: [zfs-discuss] ZSF Solaris Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 07:21:56 +0200 From: Jens Elkner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue,

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Moore, Joe
Nicolas Williams wrote There have been threads about adding a feature to support slow mirror devices that don't stay synced synchronously. At least IIRC. That would help. But then, if the pool is busy writing then your slow ZIL mirrors would generally be out of sync, thus being of no help

Re: [zfs-discuss] SATA/SAS (Re: Quantifying ZFS reliability)

2008-10-06 Thread Richard Elling
Anton B. Rang wrote: Erik: (2) a SAS drive has better throughput and IOPs than a SATA drive Richard: Disagree. We proved that the transport layer protocol has no bearing on throughput or iops. Several vendors offer drives which are identical in all respects except for

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import of bootable root pool renders it unbootable

2008-10-06 Thread andrew
I've upgraded to b98, checked if zpool.cache is not being added to boot archive and tried to boot from VB by presenting a prtition to it. It didn't. I got it working by installing a new build of OpenSolaris 2008.11 from scratch rather than upgrading, but deleting zpool.cache, deleting both

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import of bootable root pool renders it unbootable

2008-10-06 Thread Jürgen Keil
Cannot mount root on /[EMAIL PROTECTED],0/pci103c,[EMAIL PROTECTED],2/[EMAIL PROTECTED],0:a fstype zfs Is that physical device path correct for your new system? Or is this the physical device path (stored on-disk in the zpool label) from some other system? In this case you may be able to

[zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Luke Schwab
Hi, I am having a problem running zpool imports when we import multiple storage pools at one time. Below are the details of the setup: - We are using a SAN with Sun 6140 storage arrays. - Dual port HBA on each server is Qlogic running the QLC driver with Sun mpxio(SFCSM) running. - We have

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 06 October, 2008 - Luke Schwab sent me these 2,0K bytes: Is this a design choice with ZFS coding or a bug? Is there anything I can do to increase my import times? We do have the same setup on one of our SANs with only 10-20 luns instead of 400+ and the imports take only 1-3 seconds. My

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Richard Elling
Do you have a lot of snapshots? If so, CR 6612830 could be contributing. Alas, many such fixes are not yet available in S10. -- richard Luke Schwab wrote: Hi, I am having a problem running zpool imports when we import multiple storage pools at one time. Below are the details of the setup:

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS with Fusion-IO?

2008-10-06 Thread Ross
D'oh, meant ZIL / slog and L2ARC device. Must have posted that before my early morning cuppa! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread C. Bergström
Hi all In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a chance to take a look at the code/product more closely? Wstuart asked how they

Re: [zfs-discuss] Root pool mirror wasn't automatically configured during install

2008-10-06 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Fri, 3 Oct 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Boutilier wrote: Is the following issue related to (will probably get fixed by) bug 6748133? ... During a net-install of b96, I modified the name of the root pool, overriding the default name, rpool. After the install, the pool was on a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/06/2008 01:57:10 PM: Hi all In another thread a short while ago.. A cool little movie with some gumballs was all we got to learn about green-bytes. The product launched and maybe some of the people that follow this list have had a chance to take a look at the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread C. Bergström
Matt Aitkenhead wrote: I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. The latter is shining through. Regards, Matt Hi Matt, I'd like to make our correspondence in public if you don't

[zfs-discuss] Looking for some hardware answers, maybe someone on this list could help

2008-10-06 Thread mike
I posted a thread here... http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=596 I am trying to finish building a system and I kind of need to pick working NIC and onboard SATA chipsets (video is not a big deal - I can get a silent PCIe card for that, I already know one which works great) I need

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Tim
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, C. Bergström [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Matt Aitkenhead wrote: I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. The latter is shining through. Regards, Matt

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Scott Williamson
Speaking of this, is there a list anywhere that details what we can expect to see for (zfs) updates in S10U6? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Do you have a lot of snapshots? If so, CR 6612830 could be contributing. Alas, many such fixes are not yet

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Tim wrote: ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in It doesn't, but changes made to CDDL-licensed files must be released (under the CDDL). that companies can take

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Wade . Stuart
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 3:00 PM, C. Bergström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt Aitkenhead wrote: I see that you have wasted no time. I'm still determining if you have a sincere interest in working with us or alternatively have an axe to grind. The latter is shining through. Regards,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ZFS is licensed under the CDDL, and as far as I know does not require derivative works to be open source. It's truly free like the BSD license in that companies can take CDDL code, modify it, and keep the content closed. They are not forced to share their code.

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:30:54PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: There have been threads about adding a feature to support slow mirror devices that don't stay synced synchronously. At least IIRC. That would help. But then, if the pool is busy writing then your slow ZIL That would

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:47:04AM -0400, Moore, Joe wrote: I wonder if an AVS-replicated storage device on the backends would be appropriate? write - ZFS-mirrored slog - ramdisk -AVS- physical disk \ +-iscsi- ramdisk -AVS- physical disk You'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 05:38:33PM -0400, Brian Hechinger wrote: On Sun, Oct 05, 2008 at 11:30:54PM -0500, Nicolas Williams wrote: There have been threads about adding a feature to support slow mirror devices that don't stay synced synchronously. At least IIRC. That would help. But then,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008, Joerg Schilling wrote: While you may not like it, this isn't the GPL. The GPL is more free than many people may believe now ;-) The GPL is unfortunately missunderstood by most people. The GPL is missunderstood due the profusion of confusing technobabble such as you

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 10:47:04AM -0400, Moore, Joe wrote: I wonder if an AVS-replicated storage device on the backends would be appropriate? write - ZFS-mirrored slog - ramdisk -AVS- physical disk \ +-iscsi- ramdisk -AVS- physical disk You'd

Re: [zfs-discuss] Comments on green-bytes

2008-10-06 Thread Joerg Schilling
Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The GPL is unfortunately missunderstood by most people. The GPL is missunderstood due the profusion of confusing technobabble such as you provided in your explanation. If you don't understand it, just don't comment it ;-) Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] An slog experiment (my NAS can beat up your NAS)

2008-10-06 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 01:13:40AM -0700, Ross wrote: It's also worth bearing in mind that you can have multiple mirrors. I don't know what effect that will have on the performance, but it's an easy way to boost the reliability even further. I think this idea configured on a set of 2-3

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool imports are slow when importing multiple storage pools

2008-10-06 Thread Richard Elling
Scott Williamson wrote: Speaking of this, is there a list anywhere that details what we can expect to see for (zfs) updates in S10U6? The official release name is Solaris 10 10/08 http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/10 has links to what's new videos. When the release is downloadable, full

Re: [zfs-discuss] [Fwd: Re: ZSF Solaris]

2008-10-06 Thread Jens Elkner
On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 08:01:39PM +0530, Pramod Batni wrote: On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 09:44:21PM -0500, Al Hopper wrote: This behavior is common to tmpfs, UFS and I tested it on early ZFS releases. I have no idea why - I have not made the time to figure it out. What I have observed is