Re: [zfs-discuss] Building big cheap storage system. What hardware to use?

fjwc...@gmail.com said: > Yes, if I was to re-do the hardware config for these servers, using what I > know now, I would do things a little differently: > . . . > - find a case with more than 24 drive bays (any way to get a Thumper > without the extra hardware/software?) ;) > . . . It's called t

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

> With the absolutely deplorable reliability of drives > >1TB why would one even waste their money? The 500GB > RE2/3 and NS drives are very reliable and <$.12/gb. I > get new drives off ebay all the time. Perhaps because you only have X number of drive bays, and your dataset is larger than the c

Re: [zfs-discuss] Best 1.5TB drives for consumer RAID?

> > On 25-Jan-10, at 2:59 PM, Freddie Cash wrote: > > > We have the WDC WD15EADS-00P8B0 1.5 TB Caviar Green > drives. > > > > Unfortunately, these drives have the "fixed" > firmware and the 8 > > second idle timeout cannot be changed. > > That sounds like a laptop spec, not a server spec! > Ho

Re: [zfs-discuss] Building big cheap storage system. What hardware to use?

Yes, if I was to re-do the hardware config for these servers, using what I know now, I would do things a little differently: - multiple 8-port SATA controllers - 1 vdev per controller - 6-drive raidz2 vdevs - find a case with more than 24 drive bays (any way to get a Thumper without the e

Re: [zfs-discuss] Checksum fletcher4 or sha256 ?

On Fri, 29 Jan 2010, Mirko wrote: Is SHA256 a good step-up to guarantee 'correct data' over fletcher4, or it's only marginally better in real life ? The checksum is only used to verify that the data is correct (and not to try to correct it) so fletcher4 is fine. The sha256 algorithm does c

[zfs-discuss] Checksum fletcher4 or sha256 ?

Hi, I'm atmost ready to deploy my new homeserver for final testing. Before I want to be sure that nothing big is left untouched. Reading ZFS Admin Guide About the checksum method, there's no advice about it. The default is fletcher4. there's also SHA256 Now the sha256 is pretty 'heavy' to calculate

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

cool lads! thanks for the links. checking out Simon's posts now. going to try get my hands on an external DVD Drive and install something tomorrow... NextaCore might be the way to go if it has both OpenSolaris and Debian, or StormOS, which sounds interesting too... I agree, 4Tb for a home server i

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs root pool on upgraded host

On 01/25/10 17:56, Shannon Fiume wrote: Hi, I installed opensolaris on a x2200 m2 with two internal drives that had an existing root pool with a Solaris 10 update 6. After installing opensolaris 2009.06 the host refused to boot. The opensolaris install was fine. I had to pull the second hard d

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

Yep, you're right, the topic was media server build :) Cheers, Simon -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

> "re" == Richard Elling writes: > "tb" == Thomas Burgess writes: re> The current NexentaStor developer edition has a 4 TB limit for re> freeness ($$) pft. thank you, drive through. tb> FreeBSD is great too (and FreeNAS is based on FreeBSD) hard to tell :(. seems to me,

[zfs-discuss] Obtaining zpool volume size from a C coded application.

As I was navigating through the source code for the ZFS file system I saw that in zvol.c where the ioctls are defined, if a program sends a DKIOCGGEOM or DKIOCDVTOV, an ENOTSUP (Error Not Supported) is returned. You can view this here: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/s

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Flash Jumpstart and mini-root version

Apologies if this has already been answered and I missed it. You need to be at Solaris 10 10/09 (that is, "u8"), or apply the following patches to enable this feature: * SPARC: o 119534-15 : fixes to the /usr/sbin/flarcreate and /usr/sbin/flar command o 124630-2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

On 01/29/10 07:36 PM, Richard Elling wrote: On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: On 01/28/10 11:13 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: While thinking about ZFS as the next generation filesystem without limits I am wondering if the real world is ready for this kind of incredible technology

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is LSI SAS3081E-R suitable for a ZFS NAS ?

> Aren't the EARS drives the first ones using 4k > sectors? Does OpenSolaris support that properly yet? > From what I've read using the 512-byte emulation mode > in the drives is not good for performance (lots of > read/modify/write), though I don't know whether that > could cause these kind of pro

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Simon Breden wrote: > Yes, a modded XBOX will play a lot of things but will struggle with highly > compressed streams and will fail at HD etc. The ION platform is especially > interesting as these boxes are really cheap, and you can slap Linux + XBMC on > there

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

> Same here, although I use a normal modded XBOX. I am > thinking of > switching to a Mac Mini w/ Plex soon (a friend's > setup is really > awesome) - I want more horsepower under the hood. The > XBOX is dated > now, and won't even play certain DVDs. Yes, a modded XBOX will play a lot of things bu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Verify NCQ status

On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:01 PM, Christo Kutrovsky wrote: > Hello, > > I have PDSMi board > (http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/PD/E7230/PDSMi.cfm) with > Intel® ICH7R SATA2 (3 Gbps) controller built-in. > > I suspect NCQ is not working as I never see "actv" bigger than 1.0 i in > ios

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:53 PM, Simon Breden wrote: > I have used OpenSolaris on the NAS and XBMC as the media player, and it works > greatl. Same here, although I use a normal modded XBOX. I am thinking of switching to a Mac Mini w/ Plex soon (a friend's setup is really awesome) - I want more

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

I have used OpenSolaris on the NAS and XBMC as the media player, and it works greatl. See: http://breden.org.uk/2008/03/08/home-fileserver-zfs-setup/ and http://breden.org.uk/2009/05/10/home-fileserver-zfs-file-systems/ and http://breden.org.uk/2009/06/20/home-fileserver-media-center/ For the HT

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

+-- | On 2010-01-29 10:36:29, Richard Elling wrote: | | Nit: Solaris 10 u9 is 10/03 or 10/04 or 10/05, depending on what you read. | Solaris 10 u8 is 11/09. Nit: S10u8 is 10/09. | Scrub I/O is given the lowest priority

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

On Fri, January 29, 2010 12:31, Richard Elling wrote: > A 4 TB media server is kinda small, though. I do so love living in the future :-). -- David Dyer-Bennet, d...@dd-b.net; http://dd-b.net/ Snapshots: http://dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/data/ Photos: http://dd-b.net/photography/gallery/ Drag

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

On Jan 29, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Henrik Johansen wrote: > On 01/28/10 11:13 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: >> While thinking about ZFS as the next generation filesystem without >> limits I am wondering if the real world is ready for this kind of >> incredible technology ... >> >> I'm actually speaking of h

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot attach c5d0s0 to c4d0s0: device is too small

Hi Dick, I have an OpenSolaris release running on my laptop with one disk so I can't confirm your results below. But before you go the snapshot route, let me see if I can get some info on the beadm solution. I have done similar transitions with LU on Nevada releases and I can easily boot from ei

[zfs-discuss] Verify NCQ status

Hello, I have PDSMi board (http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/PD/E7230/PDSMi.cfm) with Intel® ICH7R SATA2 (3 Gbps) controller built-in. I suspect NCQ is not working as I never see "actv" bigger than 1.0 i in iostat, even though I have requests in "wait". How can I verify the statu

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can ZFS update disk drive firmware

On 30/01/10 02:14 AM, SR wrote: Are there any utilities built into Opensolaris and/or ZFS to > update disk drive firmware (I mean firmware downloaded from > the drive vendor). /usr/sbin/fwflash flag day message about this functionality is available at http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Commun

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs rpool mirror on non-equal drives

Hi Michelle, You're almost there, but install the bootblocks in s0: # installgrub -m /boot/grub/stage1 /boot/grub/stage2 /dev/rdsk/c19d0s0 Thanks, Cindy On 01/29/10 11:10, Michelle Knight wrote: Well, I nearly got there. I used -f to force the overwrite and then installed grub to slice 8 (w

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

On Jan 29, 2010, at 4:10 AM, Tiernan OToole wrote: > thanks. > > I have looked at nexentastor, but i have a lot more drives than 2Tb... i know > their nexentacore could be better suited... I think its also based on > OpenSolaris too, correct? The current NexentaStor developer edition has a 4 TB

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs rpool mirror on non-equal drives

Well, I nearly got there. I used -f to force the overwrite and then installed grub to slice 8 (which seemed to have the boot) but when I boot from the larger hard disk I get ... GNU GRUB version 0.97 (688 [ Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported... lists possible command completions...

Re: [zfs-discuss] cannot attach c5d0s0 to c4d0s0: device is too small

Op 28-1-2010 17:35, Cindy Swearingen schreef: Thomas, Excellent and much better suggestion... :-) You can use beadm to specify another root pool by using the -p option. The beadm operation will set the bootfs pool property and update the GRUB entry. It turns out not to be excellent at all. Be

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Scott Meilicke wrote: > Link aggregation can use different algorithms to load balance. Using L4 (IP > plus originating port I think), using a single client computer and the same > protocol (NFS), but different origination ports has allowed me to saturate > both NICS

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs rpool mirror on non-equal drives

Hi System5, They look like the steps I followed here... http://letsgetdugg.com/2009/10/18/zfs-boot-mirror-setup/ ...which didn't work. I'm going to use the -f option and see what happens. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss ma

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Flash Jumpstart and mini-root version

Hi Tony, I'm no JumpStart expert but it looks to me like the error is on the pool entry in the profile. I would retest this install by changing the pool entry in the profile like this: install_type flash_install archive_location nfs://192.168.1.230/export/install/media/sol10u8.flar

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

Link aggregation can use different algorithms to load balance. Using L4 (IP plus originating port I think), using a single client computer and the same protocol (NFS), but different origination ports has allowed me to saturate both NICS in my LAG. So yes, you just need more than one 'conversatio

Re: [zfs-discuss] Non-Raid HBA

I've used the LSI SAS3442E-R with great success in OpenSolaris 2009.06. It is a non-raid SAS HBA that costs $220 on NewEgg. Daniel Bakken On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:21 AM, A. Krijgsman wrote: > Hi All, > > Since I believe there are people in this list having more experience in > this matter the

[zfs-discuss] Non-Raid HBA

Hi All, Since I believe there are people in this list having more experience in this matter then I do, To point out what it is I am doing: I am building a (very) low cost SAN setup as proof of concept using ZFS. The goal of this project is to provide a High-Available (or getting close to) low

[zfs-discuss] Can ZFS update disk drive firmware

Are there any utilities built into Opensolaris and/or ZFS to update disk drive firmware (I mean firmware downloaded from the drive vendor). Thanks SR -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org h

[zfs-discuss] send/received inherited bug?, received overrides parent, snv_130 6920906

Here is the output -bash-4.0# uname -a SunOS 5.11 snv_130 i86pc i386 i86pc -bash-4.0# zfs get -r -o all compression mainfs01 | egrep -v \@ NAMEPROPERTY VALUE RECEIVED SOURCE mainfs01 compression gzip-3- local mainfs01/home compression g

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

Thomas Burgess wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Edward Ned Harvey mailto:sola...@nedharvey.com>> wrote: > Thanks for the responses guys. It looks like I'll probably use RaidZ2 > with 8 drives. The write bandwidth isn't that great as it'll be a > hundred gigs every co

Re: [zfs-discuss] zero out block / sectors

On 28 jan 2010, at 12.11, Björn JACKE wrote: > On 2010-01-28 at 00:30 +0100 Ragnar Sundblad sent off: >>> Are there any plans to add unwritten extent support into ZFS or any reason >>> why >>> not? >> >> I have no idea, but just out of curiosity - when do you want that? > > when you have many

Re: [zfs-discuss] Media server build

thanks. I have looked at nexentastor, but i have a lot more drives than 2Tb... i know their nexentacore could be better suited... I think its also based on OpenSolaris too, correct? On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:00 AM, Thomas Burgess wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Tiernan OToole wrot

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: > > Thanks for the responses guys. It looks like I'll probably use RaidZ2 > > with 8 drives. The write bandwidth isn't that great as it'll be a > > hundred gigs every couple weeks but in a bulk load type of environment. > > So, not a majo

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS configuration suggestion with 24 drives

> Thanks for the responses guys. It looks like I'll probably use RaidZ2 > with 8 drives. The write bandwidth isn't that great as it'll be a > hundred gigs every couple weeks but in a bulk load type of environment. > So, not a major issue. Testing with 8 drives in a raidz2 easily > saturated a Gi

Re: [zfs-discuss] zero out block / sectors

On 2010-01-28 at 00:30 +0100 Ragnar Sundblad sent off: > > Are there any plans to add unwritten extent support into ZFS or any reason > > why > > not? > > I have no idea, but just out of curiosity - when do you want that? when you have many data streams being simultaneous written to disk over a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Large scale ZFS deployments out there (>200 disks)

On 01/28/10 11:13 PM, Lutz Schumann wrote: While thinking about ZFS as the next generation filesystem without limits I am wondering if the real world is ready for this kind of incredible technology ... I'm actually speaking of hardware :) ZFS can handle a lot of devices. Once in the import bug

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs rpool mirror on non-equal drives

Hey Msknight, Try following the steps posted at this blog and tell me if they work for you: http://darkstar-solaris.blogspot.com/2008/09/zfs-root-mirror.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolar