On Fri, Apr 8 at 22:03, Erik Trimble wrote:
I want my J4000's back, too. And, I still want something like HP's
MSA 70 (25 x 2.5 drive JBOD in a 2U formfactor)
Just noticed that SuperMicro is now selling a 4U 72-bay 2.5 6Gbit/s
SAS chassis, the SC417. Unclear from the documentation how many
On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:43, Marion Hakanson hakan...@ohsu.edu wrote:
which peak at around 7 Gb/s down a 10G link (in reality I don't need that
much because it is all about the IOPS for me). That is with just twelve 15k
disks.
Depending on usage, I disagree with your bandwidth and
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Julian King
Actually I think our figures more or less agree. 12 disks = 7 mbits
48 disks = 4x7mbits
I know that sounds like terrible performance to me. Any time I benchmark
disks, a cheap
On 04/09/2011 01:41 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Julian King
Actually I think our figures more or less agree. 12 disks = 7 mbits
48 disks = 4x7mbits
I know that sounds like terrible
On 9 Apr 2011, at 12:59, Sašo Kiselkov skiselkov...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/09/2011 01:41 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Julian King
Actually I think our figures more or less agree. 12 disks =
On 4/7/2011 10:25 AM, Chris Banal wrote:
While I understand everything at Oracle is top secret these days.
Does anyone have any insight into a next-gen X4500 / X4540? Does some
other Oracle / Sun partner make a comparable system that is fully
supported by Oracle / Sun?
On 04/ 8/11 06:30 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
On 4/7/2011 10:25 AM, Chris Banal wrote:
While I understand everything at Oracle is top secret these days.
Does anyone have any insight into a next-gen X4500 / X4540? Does some
other Oracle / Sun partner make a comparable system that is fully
On 4/8/2011 12:37 AM, Ian Collins wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 06:30 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
On 4/7/2011 10:25 AM, Chris Banal wrote:
While I understand everything at Oracle is top secret these days.
Does anyone have any insight into a next-gen X4500 / X4540? Does
some other Oracle / Sun partner make
On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:37 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 06:30 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
On 4/7/2011 10:25 AM, Chris Banal wrote:
While I understand everything at Oracle is top secret these days.
Does anyone have any insight into a next-gen X4500 / X4540? Does some other
On 04/ 8/11 08:08 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:37 AM, Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 06:30 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
On 4/7/2011 10:25 AM, Chris Banal wrote:
While I understand everything at Oracle is top secret these days.
Does anyone have any insight into
On Apr 8, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 08:08 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:37 AM, Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 06:30 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
On 4/7/2011 10:25 AM, Chris Banal wrote:
While I understand everything at
On 04/ 8/11 09:49 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 08:08 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 2:37 AM, Ian Collinsi...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 06:30 PM, Erik Trimble wrote:
The move seems to be to the
On 04/ 8/11 01:14 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
You have built-in storage failover with an AR cluster;
and they do NFS, CIFS, iSCSI, HTTP and WebDav
out of the box.
And you have fairly unlimited options for application servers,
once they are decoupled from the storage servers.
It doesn't seem like
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Mark Sandrock wrote:
And you have fairly unlimited options for application servers,
once they are decoupled from the storage servers.
It doesn't seem like much of a drawback -- although it
The rather extreme loss of I/O performance (at least several orders of
magnitude)
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Erik Trimble wrote:
Sorry, I read the question differently, as in I have X4500/X4540 now, and
want more of them, but Oracle doesn't sell them anymore, what can I buy?.
The 7000-series (now: Unified Storage) *are* storage appliances.
They may be storage appliances, but
On 08/04/2011 14:59, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, Erik Trimble wrote:
Sorry, I read the question differently, as in I have X4500/X4540 now,
and want more of them, but Oracle doesn't sell them anymore, what can
I buy?. The 7000-series (now: Unified Storage) *are* storage
On Fri, April 8, 2011 10:06, Darren J Moffat wrote:
They may be storage appliances, but the user can not put their own
software on them. This limits the appliance to only the features that
Oracle decides to put on it.
Isn't that the very definition of an Appliance ?
Yes, but the OP wasn't
On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Evaldas Auryla evaldas.aur...@edqm.eu wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 01:14 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
You have built-in storage failover with an AR cluster;
and they do NFS, CIFS, iSCSI, HTTP and WebDav
out of the box.
And you have fairly unlimited options for application
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 08:29:31PM +1200, Ian Collins wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 08:08 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
...
I don't follow? What else would an X4540 or a 7xxx box
be used for, other than a storage appliance?
...
No, I just wasn't clear - we use ours as storage/application servers.
They run
On 04/08/2011 05:20 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Evaldas Auryla evaldas.aur...@edqm.eu wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 01:14 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
You have built-in storage failover with an AR cluster;
and they do NFS, CIFS, iSCSI, HTTP and WebDav
out of the box.
And you
On 08/04/2011 17:47, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
In short, I think the X4540 was an elegant and powerful system that
definitely had its market, especially in my area of work (digital video
processing - heavy on latency, throughput and IOPS - an area, where the
7000-series with its over-the-network
On 04/08/2011 06:59 PM, Darren J Moffat wrote:
On 08/04/2011 17:47, Sašo Kiselkov wrote:
In short, I think the X4540 was an elegant and powerful system that
definitely had its market, especially in my area of work (digital video
processing - heavy on latency, throughput and IOPS - an area,
No, I haven't tried a S7000, but I've tried other kinds of network
storage and from a design perspective, for my applications, it doesn't
even make a single bit of sense. I'm talking about high-volume real-time
video streaming, where you stream 500-1000 (x 8Mbit/s) live streams from
a machine
jp...@cam.ac.uk said:
I can't speak for this particular situation or solution, but I think in
principle you are wrong. Networks are fast. Hard drives are slow. Put a
10G connection between your storage and your front ends and you'll have the
bandwidth[1]. Actually if you really were
Sounds like many of us are in a similar situation.
To clarify my original post. The goal here was to continue with what was
a cost effective solution to some of our Storage requirements. I'm
looking for hardware that wouldn't cause me to get the run around from
the Oracle support folks,
On 4/8/2011 1:58 PM, Chris Banal wrote:
Sounds like many of us are in a similar situation.
To clarify my original post. The goal here was to continue with what
was a cost effective solution to some of our Storage requirements. I'm
looking for hardware that wouldn't cause me to get the run
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, J.P. King wrote:
I can't speak for this particular situation or solution, but I think in
principle you are wrong. Networks are fast. Hard drives are slow. Put a
But memory is much faster than either. It most situations the data
would already be buffered in the
On 4/8/2011 4:50 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Fri, 8 Apr 2011, J.P. King wrote:
I can't speak for this particular situation or solution, but I think
in principle you are wrong. Networks are fast. Hard drives are
slow. Put a
But memory is much faster than either. It most situations the
Can anyone comment on Solaris with zfs on HP systems? Do things work
reliably? When there is trouble how many hoops does HP make you jump
through (how painful is it to get a part replaced that isn't flat out
smokin')? Have you gotten bounced between vendors?
Thanks,
Chris
Erik Trimble wrote:
On 04/ 9/11 03:20 AM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Evaldas Aurylaevaldas.aur...@edqm.eu wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 01:14 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
You have built-in storage failover with an AR cluster;
and they do NFS, CIFS, iSCSI, HTTP and WebDav
out of the box.
And you have
Sounds like many of us are in a similar situation.
To clarify my original post. The goal here was to continue with what was
a cost effective solution to some of our Storage requirements. I'm
looking for hardware that wouldn't cause me to get the run around from
the Oracle support folks,
On Apr 8, 2011, at 9:39 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 9/11 03:20 AM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
On Apr 8, 2011, at 7:50 AM, Evaldas Aurylaevaldas.aur...@edqm.eu wrote:
On 04/ 8/11 01:14 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
You have built-in storage failover with an AR cluster;
and they do
On 04/ 9/11 03:53 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
I'm not arguing. If it were up to me,
we'd still be selling those boxes.
Maybe you could whisper in the right ear?
:)
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On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:19 PM, Ian Collins i...@ianshome.com wrote:
On 04/ 9/11 03:53 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
I'm not arguing. If it were up to me,
we'd still be selling those boxes.
Maybe you could whisper in the right ear?
I wish. I'd have a long list if I could do that.
Mark
:)
--
On 4/8/2011 9:19 PM, Ian Collins wrote:
On 04/ 9/11 03:53 PM, Mark Sandrock wrote:
I'm not arguing. If it were up to me,
we'd still be selling those boxes.
Maybe you could whisper in the right ear?
:)
Three little words are all that Oracle Product Managers hear:
Business case
On Fri, Apr 8 at 18:08, Chris Banal wrote:
Can anyone comment on Solaris with zfs on HP systems? Do things work
reliably? When there is trouble how many hoops does HP make you jump
through (how painful is it to get a part replaced that isn't flat out
smokin')? Have you gotten bounced between
While I understand everything at Oracle is top secret these days.
Does anyone have any insight into a next-gen X4500 / X4540? Does some
other Oracle / Sun partner make a comparable system that is fully
supported by Oracle / Sun?
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