On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Paul Kraus wrote:
> I am looking for references of folks using ZFS with either NFS
> or iSCSI as the backing store for VMware (4.x) backing store for
> virtual machines. We asked the local VMware folks and they had not
> even heard of ZFS. Part of what we are lo
On Aug 14, 2010, at 8:26 AM, "Edward Ned Harvey" wrote:
>> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
>> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
>>
>> #3 I previously believed that vmfs3 was able to handle sparse files
>> amazingly well, like, when you create
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey
>
> #3 I previously believed that vmfs3 was able to handle sparse files
> amazingly well, like, when you create a new vmdk, it appears almost
> instantly regardless of size,
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus
>
>I am looking for references of folks using ZFS with either NFS
> or iSCSI as the backing store for VMware (4.x) backing store for
> virtual machines.
Since I had ulterio
On Fri, August 13, 2010 11:39, F. Wessels wrote:
> I wasn't planning to buy any SSD as a ZIL. I merely acknowledged that an
> sandforce with supercap MIGHT be a solution. At least the supercap should
> take care of the data loss in case of a power failure. But they are still
> in the consumer realm
I wasn't planning to buy any SSD as a ZIL. I merely acknowledged that an
sandforce with supercap MIGHT be a solution. At least the supercap should take
care of the data loss in case of a power failure. But they are still in the
consumer realm have not been picked up by the enterprise (yet) for w
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Eff Norwood
> Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 10:26 AM
> To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and VMware
>
> Do
Don't waste your time with something other than the DDRdrive for NFS ZIL. If
it's RAM based it might work, but why risk it and if it's an SSD forget it. No
SSD will work well for the ZIL long term. Short term the only SSD to consider
would be Intel, but again long term even that will not work ou
Yes, the sandforce based ssd's are also interesting. I think both, the 1500
sure can, could be fitted with the necessary supercap to prevent dataloss in
case of unexpected power loss. And the 1500 based models will available with a
SAS interface needed for clustering. Something the DDRdrive cann
On Fri, August 13, 2010 07:21, F. Wessels wrote:
> I fully agree with your post. NFS is much simpler in administration.
> Although I don't have any experience with the DDRdrive X1, I've read and
> heard from various people actually using them that it's the best
> "available" SLOG device. Before eve
I fully agree with your post. NFS is much simpler in administration.
Although I don't have any experience with the DDRdrive X1, I've read and heard
from various people actually using them that it's the best "available" SLOG
device. Before everybody starts yelling "ZEUS" or "LOGZILLA". Was anybod
> "sw" == Saxon, Will writes:
sw> It was and may still be common to use RDM for VMs that need
sw> very high IO performance. It also used to be the only
sw> supported way to get thin provisioning for an individual VM
sw> disk. However, VMware regularly makes a lot of noise abou
We are using zfs backed fibre targets for ESXi 4.1 and previously 4.0 and have
had good performance with no issues. The fibre LUNS were formated with vmfs by
the ESXi boxes.
SQLIO benchmarks from guest system running on fibre attacted ESXi host.
File Size MBThreads Read/Write Duration
We are doing NFS in VMWare 4.0U2 production, 50K users using OpenSolaris
SNV_134 on SuperMicro boxes with SATA drives. Yes, I am crazy. Our experience
has been that iSCSI for ESXi 4.x is fast and works well with minimal fussing
until there is a problem. When that problem happens, getting to data
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Saxon, Will wrote:
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> It really depends on your VM system, what you plan on doing with VMs and how
> you plan to do it.
>
> I have the vSphere Enterprise product and I am using the DRS feature, so VMs
> are vmotioned around
> my cluster all throughout the day.
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> My understanding is that if you wanted to use MS Cluster Server, you'd need
> to use a LUN as an RDM for the quorum drive. VMDK files are locked when
> open, so they can't typically be shared. VMware's Fault Tolerance gets
> around this somehow, and I have a suspicion that their Lab Manager
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Cook [mailto:t...@cook.ms]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:42 PM
> To: Saxon, Will
> Cc: Edward Ned Harvey; ZFS Discussions
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and VMware
>
>
> I still think there are reasons why iS
Actually, this brings up a related issue. Does anyone have experience
with running VirtualBox on iSCSI volumes vs NFS shares, both of which
would be backed by a ZFS server?
-Erik
On Wed, 2010-08-11 at 21:41 -0500, Tim Cook wrote:
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> This is not entirely c
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> This is not entirely correct either. You're not forced to use VMFS.
>
It is entirely true. You absolutely cannot use ESX with a guest on a block
device without formatting the LUN with VMFS. You are *FORCED* to use VMFS.
You can format the LUN with VMFS, then put VM files inside the VMF
> -Original Message-
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org
> [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Tim Cook
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 8:46 PM
> To: Edward Ned Harvey
> Cc: ZFS Discussions
> Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and VMware
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On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 7:27 PM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> > From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> > boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus
> >
> >I am looking for references of folks using ZFS with either NFS
> > or iSCSI as the backing store for VMwa
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss-
> boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus
>
>I am looking for references of folks using ZFS with either NFS
> or iSCSI as the backing store for VMware (4.x) backing store for
I'll try to clearly separate what I know
> -Original Message-
> From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org
> [mailto:zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus
> Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 3:53 PM
> To: ZFS Discussions
> Subject: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and VMware
>
>I am looking
Hi Paul,
I am using EXSi 4.0 with a NFS-on-ZFS datastore running on OSOL b134. It
previously ran on Solaris 10u7 with VMware Server 2.x. Disks are SATAs in a
JBOD over FC.
I'll try to summarize my experience here, albeit our system does not provide
services to end users and thus is not very st
I am looking for references of folks using ZFS with either NFS
or iSCSI as the backing store for VMware (4.x) backing store for
virtual machines. We asked the local VMware folks and they had not
even heard of ZFS. Part of what we are looking for is a recommendation
for NFS or iSCSI, and all
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