Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-18 Thread Will Murnane
On 6/15/07, Will Murnane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting in this regard is the yy-0221: http://www.directron.com/yy0221bk.html with 10 3.5 bays (well-cooled, too - fans mounted in front of 8 of them) and 6 5.25 bays. This doesn't leave much room for a power supply, unfortunately - the

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-18 Thread Frank Cusack
On June 16, 2007 7:37:31 PM -0400 Will Murnane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish someone would make a card with a pci-express to pci-x bridge chip and two of those controllers on it. Hmm, I just realized I'm describing the highpoint 2340: http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA/rr2340.htm eh, sorry

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-17 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Will Murnane wrote: On 6/15/07, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alec Muffett wrote: 2) I've considered pivot-root solutions based around a USB stick or drive; cute, but I want a single tower box and no dongles You could buy a laptop disk, or mount one of these on

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-16 Thread Rob Windsor
Ian Collins wrote: Rob Windsor wrote: What 8-port-SATA motherboard models are Solaris-friendly? I've hunted and hunted and have finally resigned myself to getting a generic motherboard with PCIe-x16 and dropping in an Areca PCIe-x8 RAID card (in JBOD config, of course). I don't know about 8

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-16 Thread Ian Collins
Rob Windsor wrote: Ian Collins wrote: Rob Windsor wrote: What 8-port-SATA motherboard models are Solaris-friendly? I've hunted and hunted and have finally resigned myself to getting a generic motherboard with PCIe-x16 and dropping in an Areca PCIe-x8 RAID card (in JBOD config, of course).

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-16 Thread Will Murnane
On 6/16/07, Rob Windsor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good lord! That's a $400 mobo and CPUs are $400/ea (give or take a few bucks, depending on where you shop). My solution was cheaper and more upgrade-friendly. :) Remind me again, how much do Areca cards cost? Then again, the FX platform is

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-16 Thread Rob Windsor
Will Murnane wrote: On 6/16/07, Rob Windsor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good lord! That's a $400 mobo and CPUs are $400/ea (give or take a few bucks, depending on where you shop). My solution was cheaper and more upgrade-friendly. :) Remind me again, how much do Areca cards cost? $60 for

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-16 Thread Will Murnane
On 6/16/07, Rob Windsor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $60 for mobo, $60 for cpu, $150 for memory, $530 for 8-port Areca card. :) Yeah, I knew how much they cost ;) Google still seems to be up. I was merely pointing out that spending $500 on the mobo and getting a $100 card or spending $100 on the

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-15 Thread Ian Collins
Alec Muffett wrote: As I understand matters, from my notes to design the perfect home NAS server :-) 1) you want to give ZFS entire spindles if at all possible; that will mean it can enable and utilise the drive's hardware write cache properly, leading to a performance boost. You want to do

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-15 Thread Rob Windsor
Ian Collins wrote: Alec Muffett wrote: As I understand matters, from my notes to design the perfect home NAS server :-) 1) you want to give ZFS entire spindles if at all possible; that will mean it can enable and utilise the drive's hardware write cache properly, leading to a performance

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-15 Thread Richard Elling
comments from the peanut gallery... Rob Windsor wrote: Ian Collins wrote: Alec Muffett wrote: As I understand matters, from my notes to design the perfect home NAS server :-) 1) you want to give ZFS entire spindles if at all possible; that will mean it can enable and utilise the drive's

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-15 Thread Will Murnane
On 6/15/07, Ian Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alec Muffett wrote: 2) I've considered pivot-root solutions based around a USB stick or drive; cute, but I want a single tower box and no dongles You could buy a laptop disk, or mount one of these on the motherboard:

Re: Karma Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Best use of 4 drives?

2007-06-15 Thread Ian Collins
Rob Windsor wrote: What 8-port-SATA motherboard models are Solaris-friendly? I've hunted and hunted and have finally resigned myself to getting a generic motherboard with PCIe-x16 and dropping in an Areca PCIe-x8 RAID card (in JBOD config, of course). I don't know about 8 port SATA, but I