[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS with raidz

2007-05-10 Thread Tom Haynes
Doug has been doing some performance optimization to the sharemgr to allow faster boot up in loading Doug has blogged about his performance numbers here: http://blogs.sun.com/dougm/entry/recent_performance_improvement_in_zfs This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Resilvering speed?

2007-05-10 Thread Toby Thain
On 9-May-07, at 3:44 PM, Bakul Shah wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Mario, Wednesday, May 9, 2007, 5:56:18 PM, you wrote: MG I've read that it's supposed to go at full speed, i.e. as fast as MG possible. I'm doing a disk replace and what zpool reports kind of MG surprises me. The

[zfs-discuss] Re: zfs lost function

2007-05-10 Thread Simon
Brothers, I've fixed the issue by reconfigure the system device tree as: # devfsadm -Cv Some new devices were added,and then zfs works fine. Thanks for your kind attention. Rgds, Simon On 5/10/07, Simon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gurus, My fresh installed Solaris 10 U3 can't bootup normally

Re: [zfs-discuss] Automatic rotating snapshots

2007-05-10 Thread Dick Davies
Hi Malachi Tims SMF bits work well (and also supports remote backups (via send/recv)). I use something like the process laid out at the bottom of: http://blogs.sun.com/mmusante/entry/rolling_snapshots_made_easy because it's dirt-simple and easily understandable. On 10/05/07, Malachi de

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Storage Pools Recommendations for Productive Environments

2007-05-10 Thread Andreas Koppenhoefer
which one is the most performant: copies=2 or zfs-mirror? What type of copies are you talking about? Mirrored data in underlying storage subsystem or a (new) feature in zfs? - Andreas This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Leon Mergen
Hello, I've got some weird problem: ZFS does not seem to be utilizing all disks in my pool properly. For some reason, it's only using 2 of the 3 disks in my pool: capacity operationsbandwidth pool used avail read write read write -- - -

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Leon, Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:43:27 AM, you wrote: LM Hello, LM I've got some weird problem: ZFS does not seem to be utilizing LM all disks in my pool properly. For some reason, it's only using 2 of the 3 disks in my pool: LMcapacity operationsbandwidth LM

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Victor Latushkin
Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Leon, Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:43:27 AM, you wrote: LM Hello, LM I've got some weird problem: ZFS does not seem to be utilizing LM all disks in my pool properly. For some reason, it's only using 2 of the 3 disks in my pool: LMcapacity

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Simple test - mkfile 8gb now and see where the data goes... :) Victor Latushkin wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Leon, Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:43:27 AM, you wrote: LM Hello, LM I've got some weird problem: ZFS does not seem to be utilizing LM all disks in my pool properly. For some

Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Victor, Thursday, May 10, 2007, 11:26:35 AM, you wrote: VL Robert Milkowski wrote: Hello Leon, Thursday, May 10, 2007, 10:43:27 AM, you wrote: LM Hello, LM I've got some weird problem: ZFS does not seem to be utilizing LM all disks in my pool properly. For some reason, it's only

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Andreas Koppenhoefer
What does zpool status database say? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS not utilizing all disks

2007-05-10 Thread Leon Mergen
What does zpool status database say? Hello, As far as I can see, there are no real errors: -bash-3.00# zpool status database pool: database state: ONLINE scrub: none requested config: NAMESTATE READ WRITE CKSUM databaseONLINE 0 0 0

[zfs-discuss] Will this work?

2007-05-10 Thread mike
The host for this is up in the air. I'd hope I could use a Shuttle XPC. It's an 8 drive USB enclosure. The total bandwidth to all 8 drives would be 480Mbps, which is fine for me. I was hoping to do a RAID-Z or RAID-Z2. I would have it export the drives as JBOD.

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS Support for remote mirroring

2007-05-10 Thread Anantha N. Srirama
To clarify further; EMC note EMC Host Connectivity Guide for Solaris indicates that ZFS is supported on 11/06 (aka Update 3) and onwards. However, they sneak in a cautionary disclaimer that snapshot and clone features are supported by Sun. If one reads it carefully it appears that they do

[zfs-discuss] Re: Resilvering speed?

2007-05-10 Thread Mario Goebbels
Lot of small files perhaps? What kind of protection have you used? No protection, and as much small files as a full distro install has, plus some more source code for some libs. It's just 28GB that needs to be resilvered, yet it takes like 6 hours at this abysmal speed. At first I thought it

[zfs-discuss] Re: Resilvering speed?

2007-05-10 Thread Mario Goebbels
Oh god I found it. So freakin' bizarre. I'm pushing now 27MB/s average, instead of meager 1.6MB/s. That's more like it. This is what happened: Back in the day when I bought my first SATA drive, incidentally a WD Raptor, I wanted Windows to boot off it, including bootloader placement on it and

Re: [zfs-discuss] Automatic rotating snapshots

2007-05-10 Thread Malachi de Ælfweald
That page says the b62 (which I have installed, with the ZFS-root bits) doesn't support the recursive '-r'??? So it looks like I have to learn something else first So how do I upgrade to b63 without corrupting the existing root ZFS mirroring bits? Thanks, Malachi On 5/10/07, Dick Davies

Re: [zfs-discuss] Will this work?

2007-05-10 Thread Al Hopper
On Thu, 10 May 2007, mike wrote: The host for this is up in the air. I'd hope I could use a Shuttle XPC. It's an 8 drive USB enclosure. The total bandwidth to all 8 drives would be 480Mbps, which is fine for me. I was hoping to do a RAID-Z or RAID-Z2. I would have it export the drives as

[zfs-discuss] Remove files when at quota limit

2007-05-10 Thread Ben Miller
We have around 1000 users all with quotas set on their ZFS filesystems on Solaris 10 U3. We take snapshots daily and rotate out the week old ones. The situation is that some users ignore the advice of keeping space used below 80% and keep creating large temporary files. They then try to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Storage Pools Recommendations for Productive Environments

2007-05-10 Thread Richard Elling
Andreas Koppenhoefer wrote: which one is the most performant: copies=2 or zfs-mirror? Good question, hope to have some data soon. From the back of the napkin analysis, for the 2-disk case, it will be very similar. However, copies offers more possibilities than just 2 disks, so there is more

[zfs-discuss] Re: Remove files when at quota limit

2007-05-10 Thread mario heimel
i have the same problem, the users cant remove there files when the quota is reached. workaround is to raise the quota, remove the files and set the original quota. so you can keep your snapshots. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] Resilvering speed?

2007-05-10 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 10 May, 2007 - Bakul Shah sent me these 3,2K bytes: [1] Top down resilvering seems very much like a copying garbage collector. That similarity make me wonder if the physical layout can be rearranged in some way for a more efficient access to data -- the idea is to resilver and compactify

[zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: gzip compression throttles system?

2007-05-10 Thread Jürgen Keil
Bart wrote: Adam Leventhal wrote: On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:52:06AM +0100, Darren J Moffat wrote: Can you give some more info on what these problems are. I was thinking of this bug: 6460622 zio_nowait() doesn't live up to its name Which was surprised to find was fixed by

Re: [zfs-discuss] Will this work?

2007-05-10 Thread Darren Dunham
Side note: Is this right? ditto blocks are extra parity blocks stored on the same disk (won't prevent total disk failures, but could provide data recovery if enough parity is available) Yes. See Richard Ellings' excellent blog titled ZFS, copies, and data protection, where one picture

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: Re: gzip compression throttles system?

2007-05-10 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 10:10 -0700, Jürgen Keil wrote: Btw: In one experiment I tried to boot the kernel under kmdb control (-kd), patched minclsyspri := 61 and used a breakpoint inside spa_active() to patch the spa_zio_* taskq to use prio 60 when importing the gzip compressed pool (so that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Extremely long ZFS destroy operations

2007-05-10 Thread Mark J Musante
On Wed, 9 May 2007, Anantha N. Srirama wrote: However, the poor performance of the destroy is still valid. It is quite possible that we might create another clone for reasons beyond my original reason. There are a few open bugs against destroy. It sounds like you may be running into 6509628

[zfs-discuss] Is this a workable ORACLE disaster recovery solution?

2007-05-10 Thread Bruce Shaw
I have a scenario where I have several ORACLE databases. I'm trying to keep system downtime to a minimum for business reasons. I've created zpools on three devices, an internal 148 Gb drive (data) and two partitions on an HP SAN. HP won't do JBOD so I'm stuck with relying upon HP to give me a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is this a workable ORACLE disaster recovery solution?

2007-05-10 Thread Mark J Musante
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Bruce Shaw wrote: I don't have enough disk to do clones and I haven't figured out how to mount snapshots directly. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but 'zfs clone' is exactly the way to mount a snapshot. Creating a clone uses up a negligible amount of disk

RE: [zfs-discuss] Is this a workable ORACLE disaster recovery solution?

2007-05-10 Thread Bruce Shaw
Mark J Musante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, but 'zfs clone' is exactly the way to mount a snapshot. Creating a clone uses up a negligible amount of disk space, provided you never write to it. And you can always set readonly=on if that's a concern. So

Re: [zfs-discuss] How does ZFS write data to disks?

2007-05-10 Thread James Dickens
On 5/8/07, Mario Goebbels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While trying some things earlier in figuring out how zpool iostat is supposed to be interpreted, I noticed that ZFS behaves kind of weird when writing data. Not to say that it's bad, just interesting. I wrote 160MB of zeroed data with dd. I had

Re: [zfs-discuss] Will this work?

2007-05-10 Thread Robert Thurlow
mike wrote: this is exactly the kind of feedback i was hoping for. i'm wondering if some people consider firewire to be better in opensolaris? I've written some about a 4-drive Firewire-attached box based on the Oxford 911 chipset, and I've had I/O grind to a halt in the face of media errors

Re: [zfs-discuss] Will this work?

2007-05-10 Thread Ian Collins
mike wrote: thanks for the reply. On 5/10/07, Al Hopper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Suggestion - try two 4-way raidz pools. wouldn't that bring usable space down to 2 pairs of 3x750? can those be combined into a single filesystem (for a total of 6x750 usable, but underlying would actually

Re: [zfs-discuss] Is this a workable ORACLE disaster recovery solution?

2007-05-10 Thread Wade . Stuart
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/10/2007 02:19:17 PM: I have a scenario where I have several ORACLE databases. I'm trying to keep system downtime to a minimum for business reasons. I've created zpools on three devices, an internal 148 Gb drive (data) and two partitions on an HP SAN. HP

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Permanently removing vdevs from a pool

2007-05-10 Thread Darren Dunham
No, you will not be able to change the number of disks in a raid-z set (I think that answers questions 1-4). There is no plan to implement this feature. Am I interpreting this correctly that there are no plans to allow expansion of raid-z vdevs? This is one feature that I see as

[zfs-discuss] zpool create -f ... fails on disk with previous UFS on it

2007-05-10 Thread Matthew Flanagan
Hi, I have a test server that I use for testing my different jumpstart installations. This system is continuously installed and reinstalled with different system builds. For some builds I have a finish script that creates a zpool using the utility found in the Solaris 10 update 3 miniroot. I