Re: [zfs-discuss] x4500 recommendations for netbackup dsu?

2007-12-20 Thread Jeff Bonwick
Yep, compression is generally a nice win for backups. The amount of compression will depend on the nature of the data. If it's all mpegs, you won't see any advantage because they're already compressed. But for just about everything else, 2-3x is typical. As for hot spares, they are indeed

[zfs-discuss] question on ZFS layout

2007-12-20 Thread sudarshan sridhar
I am trying to understand the ZFS layout from a pdf available on Solaris site. I have couple of queries related to it. 1. Layout tells root vdev is th main root vdev and other vdevs (physical and top level vdevs are arranged in a tree format). So is root vdev is a single entity for whole

[zfs-discuss] iSCSI initiator BUG

2007-12-20 Thread msl
Hello all.. I'm making some tests with iozone running on a Linux (initiator), writting on a solaris target (ZVOL). I think there is a BUG in Linux initiator software (open-iscsi), but i just want your opinion, to see if the target can be the problem. Seems to me like a corruption in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [help]Could I have a question that where I can find the core code about COW

2007-12-20 Thread bu manzhao
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and acl questions in Indiana

2007-12-20 Thread Ivan Wang
What does 'which chmod' show? I think that Indiana chose to have /usr/gnu/bin at the head of the path, so you're probably picking up the GNU chmod, which doesn't handle NFSv4 ACLs. Manually running /usr/bin/chmod should solve your problem. Would it be better if this issue is brought to

Re: [zfs-discuss] question on ZFS layout

2007-12-20 Thread bu manzhao
ZFS is base in storage pool, and a pool is consist of some vdevs in tree structure. There is only one root vdev for each pool, and any number of vdevs as the root's children. Top-level vdev can be logical vdev or physical vdev. If a top-level vdev is a logical vdev, it's type can be mirror

Re: [zfs-discuss] question on ZFS layout

2007-12-20 Thread sudarshan sridhar
Hi bu manzhao, Thank for you quick response. I have some further queries to your answer (wirtten with sridhar tag). It would be great if you could provide inputs for them to understand ZFS better. ZFS is base in storage pool, and a pool is consist of some vdevs in tree structure.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Lustre

2007-12-20 Thread Owen Davies
This sounds like the result of the FUSE-ZFS for Linux developer being hired by the Lustre folks. I'm not sure of the implications of Luster using ZFS DMU. Does this mean a subset of ZFS functionality, binary compatibility of written disks or what? You can read about it in the developer's

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS and acl questions in Indiana

2007-12-20 Thread Eric Schrock
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 04:19:52AM -0800, Ivan Wang wrote: What does 'which chmod' show? I think that Indiana chose to have /usr/gnu/bin at the head of the path, so you're probably picking up the GNU chmod, which doesn't handle NFSv4 ACLs. Manually running /usr/bin/chmod should

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool kernel panics.

2007-12-20 Thread msl
Hello mr. Irvine, Did you fix that? Do you have a solaris formal support? I mean, they will fix the problem in your solaris 10 production server, or you will need to upgrade to a opensolaris version? I'm deploying a ZFS environment, but when i think about TB and how mature is ZFS... i don't

[zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-20 Thread Morris Hooten
I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not completly sure of the best scenario. I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array and would like to use zfs on it. Should I create multiple logical disks thru the raid controller then create zfs raid file

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool kernel panics.

2007-12-20 Thread Edward Irvine
Hi, On 21/12/2007, at 6:43 AM, msl wrote: Hello mr. Irvine, Did you fix that? No Do you have a solaris formal support? No. However I did upload the crash dump files and I was hoping that a Solaris engineer might have found them interesting. I was going to move the zpool to a new

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question - does a snapshot of root include child

2007-12-20 Thread Philip
The recursive option creates a separate snapshot for every child filesystem, making backup management more difficult if there are many child filesystems. The ability to natively create a single snapshot/backup of an entire ZFS hierarchy of filesystems would be a very nice thing indeed.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question - does a snapshot of root include child

2007-12-20 Thread Ross
Aye, that's what I was hoping for. Since ZFS seems to support nesting filesystems, I was hoping that each filesystem would contain the others, so a snapshot of the root filesystem would also be a snapshot of the others. I'm still not sure if that's the case or not, it could be that -r just

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question - does a snapshot of root include child

2007-12-20 Thread Rob Logan
I've only started using ZFS this week, and hadn't even touched a Unix welcome to ZFS... here is a simple script you can start with: #!/bin/sh snaps=15 today=`date +%j` nuke=`expr $today - $snaps` yesterday=`expr $today - 1` if [ $yesterday -lt 0 ] ; then yesterday=365 fi if [ $nuke -lt 0

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-20 Thread Richard Elling
Morris Hooten wrote: I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not completly sure of the best scenario. ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications... I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array and would like to use zfs on it. Should I

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 Array and ZFS/Zones

2007-12-20 Thread Morris Hooten
Thanks Richard. Richard Elling wrote: Morris Hooten wrote: I looked through the solarsinternals zfs best practices and not completly sure of the best scenario. ok, perhaps we should add some clarifications... I have a Solaris 10 6/06 Generic_125100-10 box with attached 3510 array

Re: [zfs-discuss] Question - does a snapshot of root include child

2007-12-20 Thread Richard Elling
Ross wrote: Aye, that's what I was hoping for. Since ZFS seems to support nesting filesystems, I was hoping that each filesystem would contain the others, so a snapshot of the root filesystem would also be a snapshot of the others. IMHO, a file system is created only when you need to

Re: [zfs-discuss] question on ZFS layout

2007-12-20 Thread Richard Elling
sudarshan sridhar wrote: Hi *bu manzhao,* ** * *Thank for you quick response. I have some further queries to your answer (wirtten with sridhar tag). It would be great if you could provide inputs for them to understand ZFS better. ZFS is base in storage pool, and a pool is consist of

[zfs-discuss] /usr/gnu/bin compatibility [Was: Re: ZFS and acl questions in Indiana]

2007-12-20 Thread Ivan Wang
Moving to indiana-discuss.. Please do not start battling each other, bringing this issue to indiana-discuss is only to show potential gotcha when assuming a specific PATH setting in utilities/scripts Cheers, Ivan This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Lustre

2007-12-20 Thread Ricardo M. Correia
Hi Owen, Owen Davies wrote: I'm not sure of the implications of Luster using ZFS DMU. Does this mean a subset of ZFS functionality, binary compatibility of written disks or what? It means Lustre will be using ZFS (instead of ext4/ldiskfs) as its disk storage backend in metadata and