Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Matt Harrison
JZ wrote:
 Beloved Jonny,
 
 I am just like you.
 
 
 There was a day, I was hungry, and went for a job interview for sysadmin.
 They asked me - what is a protocol?
 I could not give a definition, and they said, no, not qualified.
 
 But they did not ask me about CICS and mainframe. Too bad.
 
 
 
 baby, even there is a day you can break daddy's pride, you won't want to, I 
 am sure.   ;-)
 
 [if you want a solution, ask Orvar, I would guess he thinks on his own now, 
 not baby no more, teen now...]
 
 best,
 z
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com
 To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:19 PM
 Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...
 
 
 Sorry that I broke your pride (all knowing) bubble by challenging you.
 But your just as stupid as I am since you did not give me a solution.
 Find a solution, and I will rock with your Zhou style, otherwise you're
 just like me :) I am in the U.S. Great weather...
 
 Thanks, Jonny
 
 
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Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list 
with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant 
ramblings, need I go on?

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
This seems to have worked. But is showing an abnormal amount of data.

r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -

r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry

This happened the last time I created a raidz1... Meh, before I 
continue, is this incredibly abnormal? Or is there something that I'm 
missing and this is normal procedure?

Thanks, Jonny

Wes Morgan wrote:
 On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Jonny Gerold wrote:

 Hello,
 I was hoping that this would work:
 http://blogs.sun.com/zhangfan/entry/how_to_turn_a_mirror

 I have 4x(1TB) disks, one of which is filled with 800GB of data (that I
 cant delete/backup somewhere else)

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool create -f ambry raidz1 c4t0d0 c5t0d0 c5t1d0
 /dev/lofi/1
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry   592G   132K   592G 0%  ONLINE  -
 I get this (592GB???) I bring the virtual device offline, and it becomes
 degraded, yet I wont be able to copy my data over. I was wondering if
 anyone else had a solution.

 Thanks, Jonny

 P.S. Please let me know if you need any extra information.

 Are you certain that you created the sparse file as the correct size? 
 If I had to guess, it is only in the range of about 150gb. The 
 smallest device size will limit the total size of your array. Try 
 using this for your sparse file and recreating the raidz:

 dd if=/dev/zero of=fakedisk bs=1k seek=976762584 count=0
 lofiadm -a fakedisk


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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote:

 Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list
 with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant
 ramblings, need I go on?

The ZFS discussion list has produced its first candidate for the 
rubber room that I mentioned here previously.  A reduction in crystal 
meth intake could have a profound effect though.

Bob
==
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bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Volker A. Brandt
 JZ wrote:
[...]

 Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list
 with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant
 ramblings, need I go on?

He probably has nothing better to do.  Just ignore him; that's what
they dislike most.  He will go away eventually.  Just put him in
your killfile.

Don't feed the trolls.


Regards -- Volker
-- 

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Brandt  Brandt Computer GmbH   WWW: http://www.bb-c.de/
Am Wiesenpfad 6, 53340 Meckenheim Email: v...@bb-c.de
Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Bonn, HRB 10513  Schuhgröße: 45
Geschäftsführer: Rainer J. H. Brandt und Volker A. Brandt
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect 
calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug?

r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry

r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -

r...@fsk-backup:~# zfs list
NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
ambry 92.0K  2.67T  26.9K  /ambry


Thanks, Jonny

Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote:
   
 Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list
 with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant
 ramblings, need I go on?
 

 The ZFS discussion list has produced its first candidate for the 
 rubber room that I mentioned here previously.  A reduction in crystal 
 meth intake could have a profound effect though.

 Bob
 ==
 Bob Friesenhahn
 bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://www.simplesystems.org/users/bfriesen/
 GraphicsMagick Maintainer,http://www.GraphicsMagick.org/

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Matt Harrison
Jonny Gerold wrote:
 Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect 
 calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug?
 
 r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
 ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry
 
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -
 
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zfs list
 NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 ambry 92.0K  2.67T  26.9K  /ambry

Bug or not I am not the person to say, but it's done that ever since 
I've used ZFS. zpool list shows the total space regardless of 
redundancy, whereas zfs list shows the actual available space. I was 
confusing at first but now I just ignore it.

Matt

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com wrote:

 Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect
 calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug?

 r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
 ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zfs list
 NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 ambry 92.0K  2.67T  26.9K  /ambry


From what I understand:

zpool list shows total capacity of all the drives in the pool.  df shows
usable capacity after parity.

I wouldn't really call that retarded, it allows you to see what kind of
space you're chewing up with parity fairly easily.

--Tim
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
BTW, is there any difference between raidz  raidz1 (is the one for one 
disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too?

Thanks, Jonny

Tim wrote:


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com 
 mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote:

 Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect
 calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug?

 r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
 ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zfs list
 NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 ambry 92.0K  2.67T  26.9K  /ambry


 From what I understand:

 zpool list shows total capacity of all the drives in the pool.  df 
 shows usable capacity after parity.

 I wouldn't really call that retarded, it allows you to see what kind 
 of space you're chewing up with parity fairly easily.

 --Tim 

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Tim
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com wrote:

 BTW, is there any difference between raidz  raidz1 (is the one for one
 disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too?

 Thanks, Jonny


It depends on who you're talking to I suppose.

I would expect generally raidz is describing that you're using Sun's raid
algorithm which can be either raidz1 (one parity drive) or raidz2 (two
parity drives).

It may also be that people are just interchanging the term raidz and
raidz1 as well.  I guess most documentation I've seen officially address
them as raidz or raidz2, there is no raidz1.

--Tim
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Jonny Gerold
That's what I figured. That raidz  raidz1 are the same thing. The one 
is just put there to collect confusion ;)

Thanks, Jonny

Tim wrote:


 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com 
 mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote:

 BTW, is there any difference between raidz  raidz1 (is the one
 for one
 disk parity) or does raidz have a parity disk too?

 Thanks, Jonny


 It depends on who you're talking to I suppose.

 I would expect generally raidz is describing that you're using Sun's 
 raid algorithm which can be either raidz1 (one parity drive) or 
 raidz2 (two parity drives).

 It may also be that people are just interchanging the term raidz and 
 raidz1 as well.  I guess most documentation I've seen officially 
 address them as raidz or raidz2, there is no raidz1.

 --Tim

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Elling
Tim wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com 
 mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote:
 
 Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect
 calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug?
 
 r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
 ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry
 
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -
 
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zfs list
 NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 ambry 92.0K  2.67T  26.9K  /ambry
 
 
  From what I understand:
 
 zpool list shows total capacity of all the drives in the pool.  df shows 
 usable capacity after parity.

More specifically, from zpool(1m)

  These space usage properties report  actual  physical  space
  available  to  the  storage  pool. The physical space can be
  different from the total amount of space that any  contained
  datasets  can  actually  use.  The amount of space used in a
  raidz configuration depends on the  characteristics  of  the
  data being written. In addition, ZFS reserves some space for
  internal accounting that  the  zfs(1M)  command  takes  into
  account,  but the zpool command does not. For non-full pools
  of a reasonable size, these effects should be invisible. For
  small  pools,  or  pools  that are close to being completely
  full, these discrepancies may become more noticeable.

Similarly, from zfs(1m)
  The amount of space available to the dataset and all its
  children,  assuming  that  there is no other activity in
  the pool. Because space is shared within a pool, availa-
  bility  can be limited by any number of factors, includ-
  ing physical pool size, quotas, reservations,  or  other
  datasets within the pool.

IMHO, this is a little bit wordy, in an already long man page.
If you come up with a better way to say the same thing in
fewer words, then please file a bug against the man page.
  -- richard
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread Wes Morgan
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote:

 Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list
 with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant
 ramblings, need I go on?

 The ZFS discussion list has produced its first candidate for the
 rubber room that I mentioned here previously.  A reduction in crystal
 meth intake could have a profound effect though.

I'm halfway inclined to believe he/it is a silly artificial intelligence 
script.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Wes,
I now have a real question.

How do you define silly, and artificial intelligence, and script?

And halfway inclined to believe to me means 25%.
(believe is 100%, inclined is 50%, and halfway is 25% in crystal math, and 
maybe even less in storage math, including the RAID and HA and DR and BC...)
Is my understanding correct?

But my confusion is only toward the Wes statement, all other posts by Sun 
folks made clear sense to me.
So, I am going out for dinner, hope dear Wes can help me out here.


Ciao,
z


- Original Message - 
From: Wes Morgan morg...@chemikals.org
To: Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...


 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:

 On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Matt Harrison wrote:

 Is this guy seriously for real? It's getting hard to stay on the list
 with all this going on. No list etiquette, complete irrelevant
 ramblings, need I go on?

 The ZFS discussion list has produced its first candidate for the
 rubber room that I mentioned here previously.  A reduction in crystal
 meth intake could have a profound effect though.

 I'm halfway inclined to believe he/it is a silly artificial intelligence
 script.
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-16 Thread JZ
Hi Rich,

This is the best summary I have seen.  [china folks say, older ginger more 
satisfying, true]



Just one thing I would like to add -

It also depends on the encryption technique and algorism.  Today we are 
doing private key encryption that without the key, you cannot read the data. 
Some used a public public key approach, that you can read the data without 
the key, but just misleading.  The private key approach saves a lot of 
blocks in data writing, but carries the risk of cannot duplicate or 
duplicating too many of the key.  The public public key approach takes 
much much more storage space to store the real data, but less risky, in some 
views.



Again, how to do data storage is an art.

Sun folks can guide with a good taste, but they are not limiting anyone's 
free will to do IT.



Best,

z, going chinatown for dinner soon





- Original Message - 
From: Richard Elling richard.ell...@sun.com
To: Tim t...@tcsac.net
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...


 Tim wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com
 mailto:j...@thermeon.com wrote:

 Meh this is retarted. It looks like zpool list shows an incorrect
 calculation? Can anyone agree that this looks like a bug?

 r...@fsk-backup:~# df -h | grep ambry
 ambry 2.7T   27K  2.7T   1% /ambry

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry  3.62T   132K  3.62T 0%  ONLINE  -

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zfs list
 NAME   USED  AVAIL  REFER  MOUNTPOINT
 ambry 92.0K  2.67T  26.9K  /ambry


  From what I understand:

 zpool list shows total capacity of all the drives in the pool.  df shows
 usable capacity after parity.

 More specifically, from zpool(1m)

  These space usage properties report  actual  physical  space
  available  to  the  storage  pool. The physical space can be
  different from the total amount of space that any  contained
  datasets  can  actually  use.  The amount of space used in a
  raidz configuration depends on the  characteristics  of  the
  data being written. In addition, ZFS reserves some space for
  internal accounting that  the  zfs(1M)  command  takes  into
  account,  but the zpool command does not. For non-full pools
  of a reasonable size, these effects should be invisible. For
  small  pools,  or  pools  that are close to being completely
  full, these discrepancies may become more noticeable.

 Similarly, from zfs(1m)
  The amount of space available to the dataset and all its
  children,  assuming  that  there is no other activity in
  the pool. Because space is shared within a pool, availa-
  bility  can be limited by any number of factors, includ-
  ing physical pool size, quotas, reservations,  or  other
  datasets within the pool.

 IMHO, this is a little bit wordy, in an already long man page.
 If you come up with a better way to say the same thing in
 fewer words, then please file a bug against the man page.
  -- richard
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[zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread Jonny Gerold
Hello,
I was hoping that this would work:
http://blogs.sun.com/zhangfan/entry/how_to_turn_a_mirror

I have 4x(1TB) disks, one of which is filled with 800GB of data (that I 
cant delete/backup somewhere else)

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool create -f ambry raidz1 c4t0d0 c5t0d0 c5t1d0 
 /dev/lofi/1
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry   592G   132K   592G 0%  ONLINE  -
I get this (592GB???) I bring the virtual device offline, and it becomes 
degraded, yet I wont be able to copy my data over. I was wondering if 
anyone else had a solution.

Thanks, Jonny

P.S. Please let me know if you need any extra information.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Hi Jonny,
So far there is no Sun comments here or at the blog site, I guess your 
approach is good by the Sun folks.

I also noticed that the blog hit today is only 5.
If, I tell my folks to visit the blog often, can they also do chinese? most 
of them are doing blogging in chinese, not english today. And how would 
non-china folks be able to visit the blog without getting hit by all chinese 
text?  So, if you would like more visitors, you would have to have a 
solution to deal with the chinese traffic.

Just some thoughts if you are serious about global open storage.



[BTW, I see Zhang in the URL. That is the name I honor with Zhou. For that, 
if you need help, just let me know.]

Best,
张寒星


- Original Message - 
From: Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com
To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 5:20 PM
Subject: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...


 Hello,
 I was hoping that this would work:
 http://blogs.sun.com/zhangfan/entry/how_to_turn_a_mirror

 I have 4x(1TB) disks, one of which is filled with 800GB of data (that I
 cant delete/backup somewhere else)

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool create -f ambry raidz1 c4t0d0 c5t0d0 c5t1d0
 /dev/lofi/1
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry   592G   132K   592G 0%  ONLINE  -
 I get this (592GB???) I bring the virtual device offline, and it becomes
 degraded, yet I wont be able to copy my data over. I was wondering if
 anyone else had a solution.

 Thanks, Jonny

 P.S. Please let me know if you need any extra information.

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Beloved Jonny,

I am just like you.


There was a day, I was hungry, and went for a job interview for sysadmin.
They asked me - what is a protocol?
I could not give a definition, and they said, no, not qualified.

But they did not ask me about CICS and mainframe. Too bad.



baby, even there is a day you can break daddy's pride, you won't want to, I 
am sure.   ;-)

[if you want a solution, ask Orvar, I would guess he thinks on his own now, 
not baby no more, teen now...]

best,
z

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From: Jonny Gerold j...@thermeon.com
To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:19 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...


Sorry that I broke your pride (all knowing) bubble by challenging you.
But your just as stupid as I am since you did not give me a solution.
Find a solution, and I will rock with your Zhou style, otherwise you're
just like me :) I am in the U.S. Great weather...

Thanks, Jonny


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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Hi James,
I have done nothing wrong. It was ok in my religion. Sue my if you care.


He asked for a solution to a ZFS problem.

I was calling for help, Zhou style.



All my C and Z and J folks, are we going to help Jonny or what???


darn!!!  Do I have to put down my other work to make a solution that may not 
be open?



best,
z





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To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...



 Hello JZ,
 I fail to see what your email has to do with ZFS.

 I am also at a loss as to why you appear to think that
 it is acceptable to include public mailing lists on
 what are clearly personal emails.


 James C. McPherson
 --
 Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
 Sun Microsystems
 http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog 

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Very nice.
Ok.
If I don't see any post to promise some help in solving Jonny's solution in 
the next 8 minutes --
I would go to chinatown and get some commitment.
I would have that commitment in 48 hours and a working and tested 
blog site in 60 days.
But it will not be open.

Please, open folks, are you going to help Jonny or what?

Best,
z


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To: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com
Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:42 PM
Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...


 Hi James,
 I have done nothing wrong. It was ok in my religion. Sue my if you care.


 He asked for a solution to a ZFS problem.

 I was calling for help, Zhou style.



 All my C and Z and J folks, are we going to help Jonny or what???


 darn!!!  Do I have to put down my other work to make a solution that may 
 not
 be open?



 best,
 z





 - Original Message - 
 From: James C. McPherson james.mcpher...@sun.com
 To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...



 Hello JZ,
 I fail to see what your email has to do with ZFS.

 I am also at a loss as to why you appear to think that
 it is acceptable to include public mailing lists on
 what are clearly personal emails.


 James C. McPherson
 --
 Senior Kernel Software Engineer, Solaris
 Sun Microsystems
 http://blogs.sun.com/jmcp http://www.jmcp.homeunix.com/blog

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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread Wes Morgan
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009, Jonny Gerold wrote:

 Hello,
 I was hoping that this would work:
 http://blogs.sun.com/zhangfan/entry/how_to_turn_a_mirror

 I have 4x(1TB) disks, one of which is filled with 800GB of data (that I
 cant delete/backup somewhere else)

 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool create -f ambry raidz1 c4t0d0 c5t0d0 c5t1d0
 /dev/lofi/1
 r...@fsk-backup:~# zpool list
 NAMESIZE   USED  AVAILCAP  HEALTH  ALTROOT
 ambry   592G   132K   592G 0%  ONLINE  -
 I get this (592GB???) I bring the virtual device offline, and it becomes
 degraded, yet I wont be able to copy my data over. I was wondering if
 anyone else had a solution.

 Thanks, Jonny

 P.S. Please let me know if you need any extra information.

Are you certain that you created the sparse file as the correct size? If I 
had to guess, it is only in the range of about 150gb. The smallest device 
size will limit the total size of your array. Try using this for your 
sparse file and recreating the raidz:

dd if=/dev/zero of=fakedisk bs=1k seek=976762584 count=0
lofiadm -a fakedisk
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Re: [zfs-discuss] 4 disk raidz1 with 3 disks...

2009-01-15 Thread JZ
Thank you!


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