[zfs-discuss] Re: PSARC 2006/288 zpool history

2006-05-03 Thread Ed Gould
On May 3, 2006, at 15:21, eric kustarz wrote: There's basically two writes that need to happen: one for time and one for the subcommand string. The kernel just needs to make sure if a write completes, the data is parseable (has a delimiter). Its then up to the userland parser (zpool history)

Re: [zfs-discuss] Proposal: zfs create -o

2006-08-15 Thread Ed Gould
Brian Hechinger wrote: Could you mix and match by keeping the current style assuming there are no -o options present? # zfs create pool/fs If you need to specify options, then they should all be options: # zfs create -o name=pool/fs -o mountpoint=/bar -o etc I would be tempted to have two

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can a zfs storage pool be imported readonly?

2006-08-30 Thread Ed Gould
oab wrote: I'm new to ZFS so I was wondering if it is possible to concurrently share a ZFS storage pool between two separate machines. I am currently evaluating Sybase IQ running on ZFS rather than raw devices(initial performance tests look very promising) and need now to evaluate whether the IQ

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Recommendation ZFS on StorEdge 3320 - offtopic

2006-09-08 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 8, 2006, at 9:33, Richard Elling - PAE wrote: I was looking for a new AM2 socket motherboard a few weeks ago. All of the ones I looked at had 2xIDE and 4xSATA with onboard (SATA) RAID. All were less than $150. In other words, the days of having a JBOD-only solution are over except for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Mirrored Raidz

2006-10-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 20, 2006, at 0:48, Torrey McMahon wrote: Anthony Miller wrote: I want to create create a raidz on one array and have it mirrored to the other array. Do you think this will get you more availability compared to a simple mirror? I'm curious as to why you would want to do this. This

Re: [zfs-discuss] A Plea for Help: Thumper/ZFS/NFS/B43

2006-12-09 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 9, 2006, at 8:59 , Jim Mauro wrote: AnywayI'm feeling rather naive' here, but I've seen the NFS enforced synchronous semantics phrase kicked around many times as the explanation for suboptimal performance for metadata-intensive operations when ZFS is the underlying file system, but

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: !

2006-12-22 Thread Ed Gould
On Dec 22, 2006, at 09:50, Anton B. Rang wrote: Phantom writes and/or misdirected reads/writes: I haven't seen probabilities published on this; obviously the disk vendors would claim zero, but we believe they're slightly wrong. ;-) That said, 1 in 10^8 bits would mean we’d have an

Re: [zfs-discuss] Distributed FS

2007-01-08 Thread Ed Gould
Ivan wrote: Hi, Is ZFS comparable to PVFS2? Could it also be used as an distributed filesystem at the moment or are there any plans for this in the future? I don't know anything at all about PVFS2, so I can't comment on that point. As far as ZFS being used as a distributed file system, it

Re: [zfs-discuss] External drive enclosures + Sun Server for mass storage

2007-01-20 Thread Ed Gould
Shannon Roddy wrote: For sun to charge 4-8 times street price for hard drives that they order just the same as I do from the same manufacturers that I order from is infuriating. Are you sure they're really the same drives? Mechanically, they probably are, but last I knew (I don't work in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: multihosted ZFS

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 7:17, Peter Eriksson wrote: If you _boot_ the original machine then it should see that the pool now is owned by the other host and ignore it (you'd have to do a zpool import -f again I think). Not tested though so don't take my word for it... Conceptually, that's about

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:42, Gary Mills wrote: How does this work in an environment with storage that's centrally- managed and shared between many servers? I'm putting together a new IMAP server that will eventually use 3TB of space from our Netapp via an iSCSI SAN. The Netapp provides all of the

Re: [zfs-discuss] A little different look at filesystems ... Just looking for ideas

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 10:57, Ross, Gary (G.A.) wrote: ... What if something like the old CacheFS was revived, using ZFS as the base file system instead of UFS? ... Could this be a good thing, or am I way off base??? Disconnected operation is a hard problem. One of the better research efforts

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 12:13, Richard Elling wrote: On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:05:17AM -0800, Ed Gould wrote: A number that I've been quoting, albeit without a good reference, comes from Jim Gray, who has been around the data-management industry for longer than I have (and I've been

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 12:52, Dana H. Myers wrote: So this leaves me wondering how often the controller/drive subsystem reads data from the wrong sector of the drive without notice; is it symmetrical with respect to writing, and thus about once a drive/year, or are there factors which change this?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 13:16, Dana H. Myers wrote: I would tend to expect these spurious events to impact read and write equally; more specifically, the chance of any one read or write being mis-addressed is about the same. Since, AFAIK, there are many more reads from a disk typically than

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS or UFS - what to do?

2007-01-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Jan 26, 2007, at 13:29, Selim Daoud wrote: it would be good to have real data and not only guess ot anecdots Yes, I agree. I'm sorry I don't have the data that Jim presented at FAST, but he did present actual data. Richard Elling (I believe it was Richard) has also posted some related

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: update on zfs boot support

2007-03-19 Thread Ed Gould
Richard Elling wrote: warning: noun/verb overload. In my context, swap is a verb. It is also a common shorthand for swap space. -- --Ed begin:vcard fn:Ed Gould n:Gould;Ed org:Sun Microsystems, Inc.;Solaris Cluster adr;dom:M/S UMPK17-201;;17 Network Circle;Menlo Park;CA;94025

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re: simple Raid-Z question

2007-04-08 Thread Ed Gould
Eric Haycraft wrote: Since no one seems to believe that you can expand a raidz pool, I have attached the following output from solaris 11/06 showing me doing just that. The first expanision is with like sized disks, and the second expansion is with larger disks. I realize that the documentation