Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-20 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey 4. Guess what happens if you have 2 or 3 failed disks in your raidz3, and they're trying to resilver at the same time. Does the system ignore subsequently failed disks

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-20 Thread Tuomas Leikola
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Edward Ned Harvey sh...@nedharvey.com wrote: From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Ned Harvey 4. Guess what happens if you have 2 or 3 failed disks in your raidz3, and they're trying to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-20 Thread Erik Trimble
Since my name was mention, a couple of things: (a) I'm not infallible. :-) (b) In my posts, I swapped slab for record. I really should have said record. It's more correct as to what's going on. (c) It is possible for constituent drives in a RaidZ to be issued concurrent requests for portions

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-18 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/msg41998.html Slabs don't matter. So the rest of this argument is moot. Tell it to Erik. He might want to know. Or maybe he knows better than you. 2. Each slab is spread

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-18 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 18, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Richard Elling [mailto:richard.ell...@gmail.com] http://www.mail-archive.com/zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org/msg41998.html Slabs don't matter. So the rest of this argument is moot. Tell it to Erik. He might want to know. Or maybe

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-17 Thread Richard Elling
On Oct 16, 2010, at 4:57 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] raidzN takes a really long time to resilver (code written inefficiently, it's a known problem.) If you had a huge raidz3, it would literally never finish, because it couldn't

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: Bob Friesenhahn [mailto:bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us] raidzN takes a really long time to resilver (code written inefficiently, it's a known problem.) If you had a huge raidz3, it would literally never finish, because it couldn't resilver as fast as new data appears. A week

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: raidzN takes a really long time to resilver (code written inefficiently, it's a known problem.) If you had a huge raidz3, it would literally never finish, because it couldn't resilver as fast as new data appears. A week In what way is the code

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Marty Scholes
Sorry, I can't not respond... Edward Ned Harvey wrote: whatever you do, *don't* configure one huge raidz3. Peter, whatever you do, *don't* make a decision based on blanket generalizations. If you can afford mirrors, your risk is much lower. Because although it's hysically possible for 2

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Freddie Cash
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Marty Scholes martyscho...@yahoo.com wrote: My home server's main storage is a 22 (19 + 3) disk RAIDZ3 pool backed up hourly to a 14 (11+3) RAIDZ3 backup pool. How long does it take to resilver a disk in that pool? And how long does it take to run a scrub?

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Marty Scholes
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Marty Scholes martyscho...@yahoo.com wrote: My home server's main storage is a 22 (19 + 3) disk RAIDZ3 pool backed up hourly to a 14 (11+3) RAIDZ3 backup pool. How long does it take to resilver a disk in that pool? And how long does it take to run a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-15 Thread Ian Collins
On 10/16/10 12:29 PM, Marty Scholes wrote: On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 3:16 PM, Marty Scholes martyscho...@yahoo.com wrote: My home server's main storage is a 22 (19 + 3) disk RAIDZ3 pool backed up hourly to a 14 (11+3) RAIDZ3 backup pool. How long does it take to resilver a disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-14 Thread David Magda
On Wed, October 13, 2010 21:26, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I highly endorse mirrors for nearly all purposes. Are you a member of BAARF? http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/BAARF2.html :) ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-14 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: David Magda [mailto:dma...@ee.ryerson.ca] On Wed, October 13, 2010 21:26, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: I highly endorse mirrors for nearly all purposes. Are you a member of BAARF? http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/BAARF2.html Never heard of it. I don't quite get it ... They want

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-13 Thread Scott Meilicke
Hello Peter, Read the ZFS Best Practices Guide to start. If you still have questions, post back to the list. http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Best_Practices_Guide#Storage_Pool_Performance_Considerations -Scott On Oct 13, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Peter Taps wrote: Folks, If I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Optimal raidz3 configuration

2010-10-13 Thread Edward Ned Harvey
From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:zfs-discuss- boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Peter Taps If I have 20 disks to build a raidz3 pool, do I create one big raidz vdev or do I create multiple raidz3 vdevs? Is there any advantage of having multiple raidz3 vdevs in a single