Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Eric
ents have at least 3 VMs > running a variant of Windows ontop of ZFS without any issues. Not sure what > you mean with your NAT issue. Perhaps posting your setup info might be of > more help. > > > > -- > Jason Belec > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 1, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Eric

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Eric
ith Windows, ensure > networking us functions. Then a clean VM of FreeBSD make sure networking is > functioning however you want it to. Now setup ZFS where you may have to > pre-set/create devices just for the VM to utilize so that OS's are not > fighting for the same drive(s)/space. >

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Eric
in question, > specifically Windows, the VM and the Guest. I have never really had issues > like this but I've never tried with parts your using in the sequence > described. As for why it might not work... The Guest settings info might be > relevant here as well. > > > >

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-02 Thread Eric
> As an example, I never host the VM on the OS drive, just like I never host > ZFS on the OS drive FreeBSD can of course, but I believe attention must be > paid to setup) even if I have room for a partition (tried that in the past). > > > -- > Jason Belec > Sent from my iPad >

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-02 Thread Eric
e OS drive, just like I never host > ZFS on the OS drive FreeBSD can of course, but I believe attention must be > paid to setup) even if I have room for a partition (tried that in the past). > > > > -- > Jason Belec > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 1, 2014, at 4:25 PM,

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-02 Thread Eric
k after losing some updates. > > I don't know if you're running ZFS in a VM or running VMs on top of ZFS, > but either way, you probably want to Google for "data loss" "VirtualBox" > and whatever device you're emulating and see whether there are k

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-02 Thread Eric
r being able to import your pool or having > someone who knows how to operate zdb do some additional TXG rollback to get > your data back after losing some updates. > > I don't know if you're running ZFS in a VM or running VMs on top of ZFS, > but either way, you probably

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-02 Thread Eric
eh, I suspected that On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Daniel Becker wrote: > The only time this should make a difference is when your host experiences > an unclean shutdown / reset / crash. > > On Apr 2, 2014, at 8:49 AM, Eric wrote: > > I believe we are referring to the s

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-02 Thread Eric
I have both my hands up, throwing anything and hoping for something to stick to the wall =\ On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Daniel Becker wrote: > On Apr 2, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Matt Elliott > wrote: > > > Not true. ZFS flushes also mark known states. If the zfs stack issues > a flush and the s

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-11 Thread Eric
On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Chris Ridd wrote: > > On 11 Apr 2014, at 20:42, Eric wrote: > > > I don't have a proper dump, but I did get a kernel panic on my ZFS box. > This is just informational. I'm not sure what caused it, but I'm guessing > it's

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-11 Thread Eric
to shreds if photos were missing, music was >> corrupt, etc., etc.. And this was on the old out of date but stable ZFS >> version we Mac users have been hugging onto for dear life. YMMV >> >> Never had RAM as the issue, here in the mad science lab across 10 >> rotating systems or i

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-11 Thread Eric
data was >> fine, wife would have torn me to shreds if photos were missing, music was >> corrupt, etc., etc.. And this was on the old out of date but stable ZFS >> version we Mac users have been hugging onto for dear life. YMMV >> >> Never had RAM as the issue, here in th

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-05-02 Thread Eric
@ChrisInacio THAT'S THE COOLEST THING I LEARNED TODAY :D On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Chris Inacio wrote: > > This has been quite the interesting thread. Way back long ago when I was > dong graduate work in microarchitecture (aka processor design) there were > folks who wanted to put an

[zfs-macos] Re: ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-03-31 Thread Eric Jaw
I completely agree. I'm experiencing these issues currently. Largely. Doing a scrub is just obliterating my pool. scan: scrub in progress since Mon Mar 31 10:14:52 2014 > 1.83T scanned out of 2.43T at 75.2M/s, 2h17m to go > 0 repaired, 75.55% done > config: > > NAME

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-03-31 Thread Eric Jaw
On Monday, March 31, 2014 5:53:59 PM UTC-4, Bjoern Kahl wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am 31.03.14 23:23, schrieb Eric Jaw: > > I completely agree. I'm experiencing these issues currently. > > Largely. > > > >

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-03-31 Thread Eric Jaw
On Monday, March 31, 2014 5:55:21 PM UTC-4, Daniel Becker wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Eric Jaw > > wrote: > > Doing a scrub is just obliterating my pool. > > > Is it? I don’t think so: > Thanks for the response! Here's some more details on the se

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-03-31 Thread Eric Jaw
ese four drives in my pool, which have barely been touched. > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Daniel Becker > > wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:23 PM, Eric Jaw > > wrote: > > Doing a scrub is just obliterating my pool. > > > Is it? I don’t think so:

Re: [zfs-macos] Re: ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Eric Jaw
r. At some point I may just get a 4TB USB3.0 > drive to copy stuff to and ship off to Glacier. > > Gregg > > On 3/31/2014 9:41 PM, Eric Jaw wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 31, 2014 5:55:21 PM UTC-4, Daniel Becker wrote: >> >> On Mar 31, 2014, at 2:23 PM,

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Eric Jaw
On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:13:30 AM UTC-4, Daniel Becker wrote: > > On Mar 31, 2014, at 7:41 PM, Eric Jaw > > wrote: > > I started using ZFS about a few weeks ago, so a lot of it is still new to > me. I'm actually not completely certain about "proper procedur

Re: [zfs-macos] ZFS w/o ECC RAM -> Total loss of data

2014-04-01 Thread Eric Jaw
the mad science lab across 10 rotating > systems or in any client location - pick your decade. However I don't use > cheap RAM either, and I only have 2 Systems requiring ECC currently that > don't even connect to ZFS as they are both XServers with other lives. > > >