Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations

2014-01-09 Thread Johannes Ernst
You could use Owncloud's WebDAV functionality to mount a directory on all 
machines you want to use Zim on, and have Zim store its files there. Downside: 
only works when you have network access. Upside: no third party in the loop, 
open-source.

Alternatively, you could use something like BitTorrent Sync to synchronize 
Zim's data directories across machines. This works off-line as well. Downside: 
not open-source. Upside: no third party in the loop (like in case of Dropbox 
etc.)


On Jan 9, 2014, at 7:48, Chris Miller c...@tryx.org wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 A good note application is only as good as my access to it, and this means 
 that I need it to be with me wherever I am.  Recently I heard of OwnCloud, 
 which is cloud-like file sync among a variety of locations, and this sounds 
 good.  I see that OwnCloud also has some sort of application distribution, 
 which I don't yet understand.
 
 Can I configure Zim as an OwnCloud application so that I will always have it 
 no matter where I am?  If no, then can anybody recommend a way to have one 
 notebook synchronized at multiple possibly disconnected locations, like 
 notebook, desktop, tablet, ...
 
 Thanks for the help,
 
 Chris.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations

2014-01-09 Thread Sylvain Viart

Le 09/01/2014 17:31, Johannes Ernst a écrit :
You could use Owncloud's WebDAV functionality to mount a directory on 
all machines you want to use Zim on, and have Zim store its files 
there. Downside: only works when you have network access. Upside: no 
third party in the loop, open-source.


Alternatively, you could use something like BitTorrent Sync to 
synchronize Zim's data directories across machines. This works 
off-line as well. Downside: not open-source. Upside: no third party in 
the loop (like in case of Dropbox etc.)


Couldn't git (control version system) also achieves this?

Could computing, can raise privacy difficulties...

Just a hint,
Regards,
Sylvain.
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations

2014-01-09 Thread Johannes Ernst
If anybody wants to try this with Owncloud, may I suggest 
http://indieboxproject.org/

After installing Indie Box, deploying Owncloud is as simple as this:

curl 
https://raw.github.com/indieboxproject/indie-owncloud/master/examples/s0070.json
 | indie-box-admin deploy

(editing the file first might be advantageous to adjust virtual host names and 
credentials)

To install Indie Box, see http://indieboxproject.org/wiki/Main_Page for x86, 
ARM, Raspberry PI and the like.

Disclaimer: you guessed it, Indie Box is one of my babies.

Cheers,



Johannes.


On Jan 9, 2014, at 10:01, Jaap Karssenberg jaap.karssenb...@gmail.com wrote:

 If you do test this again, you might want to log the details in the bug 
 tracker. Maybe we could make a simple modification to have a compatible 
 backend in zim that ignores these tmp files.
 
 -- Jaap
 
 
 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM, SultansOfSwing sultansofsw...@web.de wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing
 capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem
 was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for
 temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those
 happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and
 even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed
 over all other clients and so forth.
 
 (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again
 and let you know if things changed.)
 
 Regards,
 SultansOfSwing.
 
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Re: [Zim-wiki] Multiple Locations

2014-01-09 Thread Brendan Kidwell
I have several hundred pages (in ~3 notebooks) of Zim data that was in
Dropbox for a long time. Two weeks ago I switch to a private ownCloud
instance of mine (hosted on prgmr.com).

My thoughts:

* Use the ownCloud desktop sync tool (free for desktop OSes; pay $1 I think
for Android and OS X clients -- of course there's no Zim front-end for
Android or OS X yet anyway, but see next note). The desktop sync tool uses
WebDav and also polls the back-end every 30 seconds to ask if there are
upstream changes. In practice it works about as well as Dropbox and Google
Drive. TRANSPARENT to any desktop apps that just want a pile of files.

* You can edit Zim pages using ownCloud's built-in text editor in the
desktop web front-end, and in the Android or OS X clients -- great for
devices where Zim is not installed.

* Be sure to a) tell the ownCloud sync client never to sync folders named
'.zim'; or b) make sure all your notebooks have the Shared property set to
True.

* I have noticed occasionally that Zim says something about a temp file it
couldn't write or delete ... or something. But if I dismiss the dialog box
and wait a few seconds, the problem goes away. I have not lost data. If I
can ever figure out how to reproduce it, I will grab debug output and try
to open a coherent bug report.

Bottom line: ownCloud backend + ownCloud desktop sync + Zim is a winning
combination.




On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:57 AM, SultansOfSwing sultansofsw...@web.dewrote:

 Hello,

 I want to warn before anybody proposes to use OwnCloud's syncing
 capabilities for Zim. I tried it some time ago with no luck. The problem
 was that the OwnCloud Sync Client had a really weird naming scheme for
 temporary files and for conflicted files, so whenever any of those
 happen to remain in your Zim tree, they create weird index entries, and
 even worse, on next sync all of these files will be happily distributed
 over all other clients and so forth.

 (OwnCloud is in active development, so perhaps I'll give it a try again
 and let you know if things changed.)

 Regards,
 SultansOfSwing.

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