Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:20:55 -0600, Paul Osborne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 
 On Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:29:52 -0400 Scott McGee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  Yes, really! Back on Nov. 11 I fell going down my front steps, 
  bouncing
  my tail bone off the bottom step and the cement, and am still having 
  pain
  from it! It is so bad I can't even ride the motorcycle I got the 
  week
  before!
  
  Scott
 
 
 Motorcycle?!?  Hmmm. Was that a need or a want?  ;-)
 
 The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.

Maybe so, but what are you saying about me if I tell you I got the
motorcycle for free? (That being about the only way I would be able to
get much of anything right now!)

Actually, you see, I was talking about my sore (still!) butt, not the
motorcycle. I just added the grousing about it hurting to ride the
motorcyle because that just adds insult to injury (literally in this
case!)

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:00:27 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Scott, I have to tell you that the reason that Jo got sick and the reason
 you don't like cranberry sauce is because you haven't had my husband's
 HOMEMADE cranberry  orange relish.  It's not the stuff that is the
 consistency of jello.  It's nothing but cranberries and oranges ground up
 together, combined with sugar and then allowed to stew in the fridge
 for
 at least a day (gotta allow the flavors to blend properly).  When it's my
 husband's homemade stuff, there's nothing like it!

Maybe, but if it still tastes of cranberries, I don't want any.

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Re: [ZION] Are any of you having problems? morphing to The Two Towers Anticipati

2002-12-11 Thread Scott McGee
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002 19:00:30 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 What kind of tumor, Paul?  Hopefully, it is benign.
 
 By the way, am I the only one out there who is REALLY looking forward to
 seeing LOTR: The Two Towers?

Not hardly. I am about equally excited about Star Trek: Nemesis and Lord
of the Rings: The Two Towers. Very excited! So much so that I am miffed
that I have to spend friday evening traveling rather than seeing Nemesis!

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[ZION] The Two Towers (LOTR)

2002-12-11 Thread Gary Smith
Unless you've read at least two of the LOTR books this year to prepare
for it, I don't think you are really excited about the movie coming out. 
Last year to prepare for the first movie, I read the Hobbit and
Fellowship. This year, I've read both Two Towers and Return of the King
(I was going to wait until next year, but just couldn't leave Sam hanging
there for an entire year. Won't say anything more so as not to give away
the ending of this movie).

BTW, I can now be classified as a Harry Potter fan. I read all 4 HP books
in 8 days, books 3 and 4 in the last three days (and book 4 is 750
pages). I'm really impressed. JK Rowling's first book is a little weak
(movie is better, though the book explains a lot), but the rest of the
books are much stronger. I can't believe I'm going to have to wait for
book 5 to see what comes next, now that Voldemoort is as strong as he is.

K'aya K'ama,
Gerald/gary  Smithgszion1 @juno.comhttp://www
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[ZION] Teaching Correct Principles

2002-12-11 Thread Gary Smith
Even if there are no nonmembers on the list right now (are you sure about
that?), that doesn't mean that something couldn't be forwarded outside
the list, either on purpose or by accident. It happens, you know. We've
seen it happen.

Just look at what people in politics/government have said lately,
thinking no one was looking around. One Canadian leftist is praying to
maintain her government position, because she called our president
something off the record, but didn't make sure no one else was listening.
 Then there's the idiot Senator from the state just to my left on the map
who praised Strom Thurmond by stating he should have won the presidency
in 1948. Well, Strom only ran on one issue: segregation, so Trent Lott
was showing either his stupidity, or his racism (or both) when he made
that statement. 

We never know who's listening, or who is going to take our statements out
of context, or spread them around the Internet.

BTW, anyone else feel that Trent Lott should step down as Majority
Leader? I've disliked him since he first got into that job. There are
many decent Senators that would do a much better job, without looking
like he just took off his white hood.

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Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


John:
 Gary, there are no nonmembers on this list.  I don't need to worry
about 
 
 converting the Lamanites here regardless of my manner of stating the 
 truth.  Obviously I wouldn't say these things in a mixed audience, but
I 
 
 shouldn't have any problem getting agreement from other Latter-day 
 Saints.  I guess there is just something about my manner that provokes 
 opposition even when I am speaking the truth.
 


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RE: [ZION] Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Larry Jackson
Scott McGee:

Back on Nov. 11 I fell going down my front steps, bouncing 
my tail bone off the bottom step and the cement, and am still 
having pain from it! It is so bad I can't even ride the 
motorcycle I got the week before!

Paul Osborne:

Motorcycle?!?  Hmmm. Was that a need or a want?  ;-)

___

No, no, Paul.  We should be thankful he only fell down the 
stairs and that he did not fall off of the motorcycle while 
under significant forces of acceleration.

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Re: [ZION] The Two Towers (LOTR)

2002-12-11 Thread Jon Spencer
Look, I read these books 39 years ago.  I still remember them very well,
thank you.  I don't have to read them this year.  Stop picking on me!
(Let's see: 19-11 = 8)

Jon

Gary Smith wrote:

 Unless you've read at least two of the LOTR books this year to prepare
 for it, I don't think you are really excited about the movie coming out.
 Last year to prepare for the first movie, I read the Hobbit and
 Fellowship. This year, I've read both Two Towers and Return of the King
 (I was going to wait until next year, but just couldn't leave Sam hanging
 there for an entire year. Won't say anything more so as not to give away
 the ending of this movie).


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RE: [ZION] Two Towers

2002-12-11 Thread Tom Matkin


 -Original Message-
 From: Gary Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: December 11, 2002 2:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ZION] Two Towers
 
 Of course, what el presidente Tom hasn't mentioned is that along with
 washing his hair, he is a closet 'chick flick' fanatico. Give him
Julia
 Roberts dying of some strange disease and he'll be all swept up in the
 moment. Make sure there are plenty of Kleenex around   ;-)
 

Who is this Roberts person?  A descendant of B.H. Roberts perhaps?

Tom (he knows his movies) Matkin

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Re: [ZION] Animal sacrifice (was: Are any of you having problems?

2002-12-11 Thread Stacy Smith
I think it will happen.  I was told as a Protestant that studies were then 
underway about what to do and how to rebuild that temple and so forth.  I 
have no reason to doubt this.

Stacy.

At 03:00 PM 12/10/2002 +, you wrote:


John W. Redelfs wrote:
 Speaking of PETA, I just found another source for my claim that animal
 sacrifice will be restored in this dispensation.  It is in the
 correlated
 CES student manual for the Old Testament 1 King through Malachi on page
 287.

snipped big long quote from President Joseph Fielding Smith which shows
there will be animal sacrifice in the Jerusalem temple

There's an interesting scenario which strikes my mind as likely.  The
last time a righteous priesthood holder offered a sacrifice in the
Jerusalem temple, an angel appeared and told him he'd be the father of
John the Baptist.  I'm kinda wondering if the next time a righteous
priesthood holder (or one of the literal lineage for the Aaronic
priesthood) offers sacrifice in the Jerusalem temple, will an angel
appear and say to phone the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints for further instructions?


*jeep!
  --Chet
Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible, and suddenly you
are doing the impossible.

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RE: [ZION] The latest from Iraq

2002-12-11 Thread larry . jackson
Marc Schindler:

By now I'm sure all of you have heard of the material the 
Iraqi government turned over to the Security Council. The 
U.S. took it before other Security Council members could 
look at it, with the excuse that they wanted to make sure 
certain parts having to do with recipes for weapons of 
mass destruction didn't get made public. But this 
doesn't make sense -- 

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Of course it doesn't make sense.  It didn't happen that way.

That wasn't the reason, that wasn't the excuse, and the 
U.N. kept a copy of the complete document while the U.S. 
made more copies for them.

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[ZION] There is no free market.

2002-12-11 Thread John W. Redelfs
Jon Spencer favored us with:

Unfortunately, the article you gave us talked about the evils of RESTRICTED
CAPITALISM, not free markets.  I mean, how can a market which includes a
dictator who manipulates the market be called a free market?


How can a central bank controlling the money supply be considered a free 
market? How can a market that is heavily taxed to promote a social agenda 
be considered a free market? How can a market regulated with tens of 
thousands of pages of regulations administered by dozens of independent 
federal regulatory agencies be considered a free market.

There is no free market.  The word has no meaning in today's 
America.  People who speak of free markets first need to learn the meaning 
of laissez-faire.  There is no nation on earth today with a free 
market.  If we define fascism as an unfree market where private property is 
absolutely controlled by the central government, then the USA today is a 
fascist state.

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