Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Call it serendipity if you will, but while researching an entirely different subject I came across an article (See URL below) written by Richard O. Cowan, entitled, The Great Temple of the New Jerusalem. While Cowan does not go into detail about the functions of the various temples involved, such as whether or not animal sacrifices will take place in certain temples, he does list the various temples and what groups will use them. Here is his list and then afterwards the URL: 0-12 House of the Lord, for the Presidency West: of the High and most Holy Priesthood, after Melchizedek the order of Melchizedek. Presidency 7-9 Sacred Apostolic Repository, for the Bishopric use of the Bishop. 4-6 Holy Evangelical House, for the High High Priests Priesthood of the Holy Order of God. 1-3 House of the Lord, for the Elders of Elders Zion, an Ensign of the Nations. East: Aaronic 22-24 House of the Lord for the Presidency Presidency of the High Priesthood, after the Order of Aaron 19-21 House of the Lord, Law of the Priests Kingdom of Heaven, Messenger to the People; for the Highest Priesthood after the Order of Aaron 16-18 House of the Lord for the Teachers Teachers in Zion, Messenger to the Church 13-15 House of the Lord for the Deacons Deacons in Zion, Helps in Government http://www.ldslastdays.com/talk_newjerusalem.htm -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Editor, The Constitutional Broadside Newsletter http://www.thecbn.net // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Also at www.ldslastdays.com is this URL which lists various Prophetic references to the Sons of Levi and their sacrificial offering: http://www.ldslastdays.com/psclevi.htm For those without web access I'll list these various references below: BM, 3 NEPHI 24:2-3 But who may abide the day of his coming, and who shall stand when he appeareth? For he is like a refiner's fire, and like fuller's soap. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness. DC, 13:1 UPON you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness. HC, J SMITH 5:326 At the close of the meeting...I remarked that the hundred and forty-four thousand sealed are the priests who should be anointed to administer in the daily sacrifice (in Jerusalem Temple). *** TPJS, J SMITH :171 ...the offering of sacrifice, which also shall be continued at the last time; for all the ordinances and duties that ever have been required by the Priesthood, under the directions and commandments of the Almighty in any of the dispensations, shall all be had in the last dispensation, therefore all things had under the authority of the Priesthood at any former period, shall be had again, bringing to pass the restoration spoken of by the mouth of all the Holy Prophets TPJS, J SMITH :171 Then shall the sons of Levi offer an acceptable offering to the Lord. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord. (See Malachi 3:3.) TPJS, J SMITH :171 ...it is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in future. The offering of sacrifice has ever been connected and forms a part of the duties of the Priesthood. It began with the Priesthood, and will be continued until after the coming of Christ, from generation to generation. TPJS, J SMITH :173 These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the powers of the Melchizedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how can the restitution of all things spoken of by the Holy Prophets be brought to pass? -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] The overall performance of the college graduates in the Convention of 1787 speaks forcefully for the proposition that Latin, rhetoric, philosophy, and mathematics can be a healthy fare for political heroes.Clinton Rossiter // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Steve with your permission I will send this post to the other list. OK??? George - Original Message - From: Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples Also at www.ldslastdays.com is this URL which lists various Prophetic references to the Sons of Levi and their sacrificial offering: http://www.ldslastdays.com/psclevi.htm For those without web access I'll list these various references below: BM, 3 NEPHI 24:2-3 But who may abide the day of his coming, and who shall stand when he appeareth? For he is like a refiner's fire, and like fuller's soap. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness. DC, 13:1 UPON you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness. HC, J SMITH 5:326 At the close of the meeting...I remarked that the hundred and forty-four thousand sealed are the priests who should be anointed to administer in the daily sacrifice (in Jerusalem Temple). *** TPJS, J SMITH :171 ...the offering of sacrifice, which also shall be continued at the last time; for all the ordinances and duties that ever have been required by the Priesthood, under the directions and commandments of the Almighty in any of the dispensations, shall all be had in the last dispensation, therefore all things had under the authority of the Priesthood at any former period, shall be had again, bringing to pass the restoration spoken of by the mouth of all the Holy Prophets TPJS, J SMITH :171 Then shall the sons of Levi offer an acceptable offering to the Lord. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord. (See Malachi 3:3.) TPJS, J SMITH :171 ...it is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in future. The offering of sacrifice has ever been connected and forms a part of the duties of the Priesthood. It began with the Priesthood, and will be continued until after the coming of Christ, from generation to generation. TPJS, J SMITH :173 These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the powers of the Melchizedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how can the restitution of all things spoken of by the Holy Prophets be brought to pass? -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] The overall performance of the college graduates in the Convention of 1787 speaks forcefully for the proposition that Latin, rhetoric, philosophy, and mathematics can be a healthy fare for political heroes.Clinton Rossiter // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Ok. Go ahead--looks like I forgot to post it myself grin. At 08:40 AM 7/16/2003, you wrote: Steve with your permission I will send this post to the other list. OK??? George - Original Message - From: Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples Also at www.ldslastdays.com is this URL which lists various Prophetic references to the Sons of Levi and their sacrificial offering: http://www.ldslastdays.com/psclevi.htm For those without web access I'll list these various references below: BM, 3 NEPHI 24:2-3 But who may abide the day of his coming, and who shall stand when he appeareth? For he is like a refiner's fire, and like fuller's soap. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord an offering in righteousness. DC, 13:1 UPON you my fellow servants, in the name of Messiah I confer the Priesthood of Aaron, which holds the keys of the ministering of angels, and of the gospel of repentance, and of baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; and this shall never be taken again from the earth, until the sons of Levi do offer again an offering unto the Lord in righteousness. HC, J SMITH 5:326 At the close of the meeting...I remarked that the hundred and forty-four thousand sealed are the priests who should be anointed to administer in the daily sacrifice (in Jerusalem Temple). *** TPJS, J SMITH :171 ...the offering of sacrifice, which also shall be continued at the last time; for all the ordinances and duties that ever have been required by the Priesthood, under the directions and commandments of the Almighty in any of the dispensations, shall all be had in the last dispensation, therefore all things had under the authority of the Priesthood at any former period, shall be had again, bringing to pass the restoration spoken of by the mouth of all the Holy Prophets TPJS, J SMITH :171 Then shall the sons of Levi offer an acceptable offering to the Lord. And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver; and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the Lord. (See Malachi 3:3.) TPJS, J SMITH :171 ...it is generally supposed that sacrifice was entirely done away when the sacrifice of the Lord Jesus was offered up, and that there will be no necessity for the ordinance of sacrifice in future. The offering of sacrifice has ever been connected and forms a part of the duties of the Priesthood. It began with the Priesthood, and will be continued until after the coming of Christ, from generation to generation. TPJS, J SMITH :173 These sacrifices, as well as every ordinance belonging to the Priesthood, will, when the Temple of the Lord shall be built, and the sons of Levi be purified, be fully restored and attended to in all their powers, ramifications, and blessings. This ever did and ever will exist when the powers of the Melchizedek Priesthood are sufficiently manifest; else how can the restitution of all things spoken of by the Holy Prophets be brought to pass? -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] The overall performance of the college graduates in the Convention of 1787 speaks forcefully for the proposition that Latin, rhetoric, philosophy, and mathematics can be a healthy fare for political heroes.Clinton Rossiter // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Steven Montgomery wrote: Call it serendipity if you will, but while researching an entirely different subject I came across an article (See URL below) written by Richard O. Cowan, entitled, The Great Temple of the New Jerusalem. While Cowan does not go into detail about the functions of the various temples involved, such as whether or not animal sacrifices will take place in certain temples, he does list the various temples and what groups will use them. Here is his list and then afterwards the URL: Who is Richard O. Cowan? Is he LDS or RLDS? Just curious. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Richard Cowan is a professor at BYU. He has been a Stake President and who knows what else. He is also Blind. He is one you can have some confidence in. George - Original Message - From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples Steven Montgomery wrote: Call it serendipity if you will, but while researching an entirely different subject I came across an article (See URL below) written by Richard O. Cowan, entitled, The Great Temple of the New Jerusalem. While Cowan does not go into detail about the functions of the various temples involved, such as whether or not animal sacrifices will take place in certain temples, he does list the various temples and what groups will use them. Here is his list and then afterwards the URL: Who is Richard O. Cowan? Is he LDS or RLDS? Just curious. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
At 10:47 AM 7/16/2003, you wrote: Steven Montgomery wrote: Call it serendipity if you will, but while researching an entirely different subject I came across an article (See URL below) written by Richard O. Cowan, entitled, The Great Temple of the New Jerusalem. While Cowan does not go into detail about the functions of the various temples involved, such as whether or not animal sacrifices will take place in certain temples, he does list the various temples and what groups will use them. Here is his list and then afterwards the URL: Who is Richard O. Cowan? Is he LDS or RLDS? Just curious. --JWR Hmm. A quick google search revealed that Richard O. Cowan must be LDS, as he was (Is?) a former BYU professor (who also happens to be blind) of Church History and Doctrine. He is also author of the book, _Temples to Dot the Earth_. Apparently this book, from a blurb on the book contains a wealth of information on temples and temple work, beginning with an overview of temple worship in former dispensations and then recounting the temple story from the beginning of the Restoration through the twentieth century. Here is a teacher profile on him from BYU: Richard 0. Cowan Dr. Richard O. Cowan was born in Los Angeles, California. He and his wife, Dawn, are the parents of six children. He received his doctorate at Stanford University in American church history in 1961. In 1959 he was selected as one of four visually impaired students in the nation to receive a special award from President Eisenhower at the White House. Dr. Cowan served a Spanish-speaking mission in Texas and New Mexico and has also been a member of a BYU stake presidency. For over a decade he served as the chairman of the committee which prepared the Gospel Doctrine Sunday School lessons for the Church. He joined the BYU faculty in 1961, and four years later was chosen Professor of the Year. He has written many articles for Church publications and has authored seven books including Temples to Dot the Earth and the recently released Latter-day Saint Century. Dr. Cowan has presented Education Week, Know Your Religion, and other lectures throughout the United States, Canada, Northern Mexico, as well as Europe and has been a visiting professor at BYU's Jerusalem Center. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Editor, The Constitutional Broadside Newsletter http://www.thecbn.net // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
John W. Redelfs wrote: Who is Richard O. Cowan? Is he LDS or RLDS? Just curious. --JWR = Grampa Bill comments: The website from which Professor Cowan's talk is taken ( http://www.ldslastdays.com/ ), also posts talks and quotes from Gordon B. Hinckley, Ezra Taft Benson, Joseph F. Smith, and Joseph Fielding Smith. Not, of course, that those dead prophets would impress Brother Paul. ;-) For those who will consider writings from other than Presidents of the Church, it also cites Marion G. Romney, Bruce R. McConkie, Joseph Fielding McConkie, James E. Talmage, and Hugh Nibley. This site would hardly seem to be a bastion of RLDS thinking! I have bookmarked this site. Love y'all, Grampa Bill in Savannah // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
I think it met his niece once. Stacy. At 11:11 AM 07/16/2003 -0600, you wrote: Richard Cowan is a professor at BYU. He has been a Stake President and who knows what else. He is also Blind. He is one you can have some confidence in. George - Original Message - From: John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples Steven Montgomery wrote: Call it serendipity if you will, but while researching an entirely different subject I came across an article (See URL below) written by Richard O. Cowan, entitled, The Great Temple of the New Jerusalem. While Cowan does not go into detail about the functions of the various temples involved, such as whether or not animal sacrifices will take place in certain temples, he does list the various temples and what groups will use them. Here is his list and then afterwards the URL: Who is Richard O. Cowan? Is he LDS or RLDS? Just curious. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 07/14/2003 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
Re: [ZION] Aaronic Temples vs. Melchizedek Temples
Look in Barker's book. He says there were temples. Israel, as I understand it, was not able to participate in the Melchisedek priesthood so it stands to reason there were no Melchisedek temples in Israel. What do you'all think? Stacy. At 03:16 PM 07/15/2003 -0800, you wrote: The missionaries who visit in my home have a question that I cannot answer. It has to do with our temples. I pointed out that according to Joseph Fielding Smith the temple in Jackson County, when it is built, will actually be a temple complex. There will be 12 Aaronic temples, and 12 Melchizedek temples. President pointed out that our modern temples are all Melchizedek temples; but that when animal sacrifice is restored by the Sons of Levi when the offer up a sacrifice in righteousness, it will be in one the Aaronic temples in Jackson County. Here is the question I cannot answer: Was Solomon's temple an Aaronic temple or a Melchizedek temple? I think it was an Aaronic temple, but I don't remember where I picked up that information. Maybe it was Doctrines of Salvation by Joseph Fielding Smith. Another question: Were there any Melchizedek temples in ancient times? How about in the early Christian church? Were their sealings or Endowments in New Testament times? If so, were those sealings or Endowments performed in Melchizedek temples? John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === There is no place in this work for those who believe only in the gospel of doom and gloom. The gospel is good news. It is a message of triumph. --Gordon B. Hinckley === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 07/14/2003 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html ==^
