RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-24 Thread larry . jackson
Stacy Smith: You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. Is there any record of what was said when Oliver Cowdary was excommunicated, for instance? ___ Ronn has already explained that a disfellowshipped person is still a member, while an excommu

Re: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-23 Thread Doug McGee
Stacy, I've had the unfortunate opportunity to sit in on several church disciplianry courts that ended in excommunication. The only persons present are the Bishopric, a clerk, and the member having disciplinary action taken against them. On occasion, a witness may be brought in. They are not "p

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:21 PM 8/22/03 -0500, Stacy Smith wrote: You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. There is indeed a difference. A member who is disfellowshipped remains a member, although there are a number of things s/he is not allowed to do which a member in good s

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread Stacy Smith
You imply there is a difference between disfellowshipment and excommunication. Is there any record of what was said when Oliver Cowdary was excommunicated, for instance? Stacy. At 08:42 PM 08/22/2003 -0500, you wrote: Stacy Smith: Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication of someon

RE: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread larry . jackson
Stacy Smith: Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication of someone else by this or any other church? ... Are they generally public or private affairs? ___ About 25 years worth of them in our Church, none in any other church. In ours, they are strictly confidential. If

Re: [ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread mormonyoyoman
Stacy, in a past calling I had to attend church disciplinary councils and was present for a disfellowship (not excommunication) procedure. (To make up for it, I was lucky enough to attend several church disciplinary councils wherein the person was "re-communicated" I guess you'd call it. Thei

[ZION] Witnessing Excommunications by Churches

2003-08-22 Thread Stacy Smith
Hi. Has anyone ever witnessed an actual excommunication of someone else by this or any other church? It seems to me that most churches refuse to do it. Why this bothers me I'm not sure, because I know that other churches don't have the authority to really matter but somehow it does. I think