[ZION] Good news sources
I've always like Wall Street Journal's best of the web, and the Washington Times. I also recommend Matt Drudge and Neal's Nuze (www.boortz.com) for information. Neal Boortz is a libertarian radio talk show host in Atlanta, so you get some good and interesting viewpoints from him. For libertarian commentary, I like Reason magazine online. (I think they are at www.reason.org). K'aya K'ama, Gerald (Gary) Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/rameumptom/index.html LDS Evidences, Family History, Food Storage, etc. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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-Original Message- From: John W. Redelfs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ZION] Good News Sources Ron, What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web? How about off the Web? Generally, IMO, the most reliable sources for news are those publications/organizations that that take great care in gathering and preparing and checking their reports. For instance, all the Time publications use adversarial fact-checking process (facts are checked by researcher who operates independent of the in house writer and field reporters). In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are: 1. The New York Times group 2. The Washington Post/LA Times/Newsday/Newsweek group 3. The Wall Street Journal/ Dow Jones Because they are well balanced, I like the following publications in particular: 1. The Economist 2. Time...although since the Time Inc. merger with AOL, it has become increasingly lightweight. 3. The New Yorker I was the happiest when daily I read: 1. The NY Times, WSJ on the train ride in; the LA Times and Washington Post at the office; plus the NY Post on the train home at night. 2. Direct, raw dispatches throughout the from Time correspondents around the world. and weekly: 1. The New Yorker 2. Sports Illustrated and ALL the Time, Inc. publications ( I am loyal) 3. The National Review 4. The Nation and/or New Republic and monthly: 1. Fortune for sure. 2. Different monthly magazines, as they contained interesting stories or good writing. And, always the New York Times Sunday Crossword, to defog my mind. These days I don't have time to read -- that is, I'm no longer paid to read -- so, as a general rule my daily reading is limited to The New York Times, Wall Street Journal and Boston Globe. And, the Crossword on Sunday. Ron // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote: In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are: 1. The New York Times group I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they have little credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize winner for the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up Stalin's man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people. They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news stories which have appeared in the rag over the years. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a standard of selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today. --Steven W. Mosher // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Whatever. -Original Message- From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote: In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are: 1. The New York Times group I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they have little credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize winner for the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up Stalin's man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people. They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news stories which have appeared in the rag over the years. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a standard of selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today. --Steven W. Mosher // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// // /// // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Whatever what? Credibility does matter. But I guess that's your right to get your news from less than credible sources. -- Steven Montgomery At 08:41 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote: Whatever. -Original Message- From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote: In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are: 1. The New York Times group I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they have little credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize winner for the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up Stalin's man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people. They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news stories which have appeared in the rag over the years. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a standard of selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today. --Steven W. Mosher // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// // /// // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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Less credible than what, for instance? And don't give me your b.s. about ny times columnists and editorials. For the moment, I was talking ONLY about the credibility of the news organization, the fact vetting process etc. -Original Message- From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources Whatever what? Credibility does matter. But I guess that's your right to get your news from less than credible sources. -- Steven Montgomery At 08:41 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote: Whatever. -Original Message- From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote: In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are: 1. The New York Times group I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they have little credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize winner for the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up Stalin's man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people. They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news stories which have appeared in the rag over the years. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a standard of selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today. --Steven W. Mosher // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// // /// / / /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// // /// // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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At 10:34 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote: Less credible than what, for instance? And don't give me your b.s. about ny times columnists and editorials. For the moment, I was talking ONLY about the credibility of the news organization, the fact vetting process etc. Well, certainly less credible than other news organizations that don't print fabrications from Times reporters--like Jason Blair, John Burns or Judith Miller. But, perhaps, more credible than say Al Jazeera vbg. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper . . The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in a situation to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day. I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow citizens, who reading newspapers, live and die in the belief, that they have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time . . . General facts may indeed be collected from them, such as that Europe is now at war . . . but no details can be relied on. (Thomas Jefferson, Letter to John Norvell, June 11, 1807) // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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-Original Message- From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources At 10:34 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote: Less credible than what, for instance? And don't give me your b.s. about ny times columnists and editorials. For the moment, I was talking ONLY about the credibility of the news organization, the fact vetting process etc. Well, certainly less credible than other news organizations that don't print fabrications from Times reporters--like Jason Blair, John Burns or Judith Miller. But, perhaps, more credible than say Al Jazeera vbg. Very big grin. Hmmm. I guess this wasn't serious discussion afterall. // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
[ZION] Good News Sources
Ron, What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web? How about off the Web? I know that Marc Schindler continually gushed over the Economist, and truth be told, I found it a good source of news. But I still read The New American, Newsmax, and Worldnet Daily on the Web. They make no pretense of objectivity, but they give me the right-wing slant that I can't get anywhere else. What am I overlooking. I'm a little bored with the news sources I've been using. I'd like to try something new. John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] === While we cannot agree with others on certain matters, we must never be disagreeable. We must be friendly, soft-spoken, neighborly, and understanding. (President Gordon B. Hinckley, October 2003) === All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^
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At 05:52 PM 11/14/2003, you wrote: Ron, What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web? How about off the Web? I know that Marc Schindler continually gushed over the Economist, and truth be told, I found it a good source of news. But I still read The New American, Newsmax, and Worldnet Daily on the Web. They make no pretense of objectivity, but they give me the right-wing slant that I can't get anywhere else. What am I overlooking. I'm a little bored with the news sources I've been using. I'd like to try something new. John W. Redelfs Once in a while I visit www.jrnyquist.com for a little different viewpoint of the right wing slant. -- Steven Montgomery [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moscow's Strategy. . . The dialectic of this offensive consists of a calculated shift from the old, discredited Soviet practice to a new, liberalized model, with a social democratic Facade, to realize the communist planners strategy for establishing a United Europe. At the beginning they introduced a variation of the 1968 Czechoslovakian 'democratization.' At a later phase they will shift to a variation of the Czechoslovakian takeover of 1948. -Anatoliy Golitsyn, _New Lies for Old_, 1984 // /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// / --^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TOPICA - Start your own email discussion group. FREE! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/create/index2.html --^