[ZION] Good news sources

2003-11-16 Thread Gerald Smith
I've always like Wall Street Journal's best of the web, and the
Washington Times.

I also recommend Matt Drudge and Neal's Nuze (www.boortz.com) for
information. Neal Boortz is a libertarian radio talk show host in
Atlanta, so you get some good and interesting viewpoints from him.

For libertarian commentary, I like Reason magazine online. (I think they
are at www.reason.org).


K'aya K'ama,

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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread RB Scott


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 Ron,

 What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web?  How about
 off the Web?

Generally, IMO, the most reliable sources for news are those
publications/organizations that that take great care in gathering and
preparing and checking their reports.  For instance, all the Time
publications use adversarial fact-checking process (facts are checked by
researcher who operates independent of the in house writer and field
reporters).

In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or
editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are:

1.  The New York Times group
2. The Washington Post/LA Times/Newsday/Newsweek group
3.  The Wall Street Journal/ Dow Jones

Because they are well balanced, I like the following publications in
particular:

1. The Economist
2.  Time...although since the Time Inc. merger with AOL, it has become
increasingly lightweight.
3. The New Yorker

I was the happiest when daily I read:

1. The NY Times, WSJ on the train ride in; the LA Times and Washington Post
at the office; plus the NY Post on the train home at night.

2.  Direct, raw dispatches throughout the from Time correspondents around
the world.

and weekly:

1. The New Yorker
2.  Sports Illustrated and ALL the Time, Inc. publications ( I am loyal)
3.  The National Review
4.  The Nation and/or New Republic

and monthly:

1. Fortune for sure.
2. Different monthly magazines, as they contained interesting stories or
good writing.

And, always the New York Times Sunday Crossword, to defog my mind.


These days I don't have time to read -- that is, I'm no longer paid to
read -- so, as a general rule my daily reading is limited to The New York
Times, Wall Street Journal and Boston Globe.  And, the Crossword on Sunday.


Ron

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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote:


In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or
editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are:
1.  The New York Times group
I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online 
version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they have little 
credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize winner for 
the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up Stalin's 
man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people. 
They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of 
Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news 
stories which have appeared in the rag over the years.



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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread RB Scott
Whatever.

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 From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:06 AM
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 At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote:


 In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or
 editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are:
 
 1.  The New York Times group

 I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online
 version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they
 have little
 credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize
 winner for
 the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up
 Stalin's
 man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people.
 They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of
 Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news
 stories which have appeared in the rag over the years.



 --
 Steven Montgomery
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 standard of
 selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American
 politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today.
 --Steven W. Mosher

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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread Steven Montgomery
Whatever what? Credibility does matter.  But I guess that's your right to 
get your news from less than credible sources.

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At 08:41 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote:
Whatever.

 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:06 AM
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 Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources


 At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote:


 In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or
 editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are:
 
 1.  The New York Times group

 I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online
 version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they
 have little
 credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize
 winner for
 the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up
 Stalin's
 man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6 million people.
 They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George Washington of
 Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news
 stories which have appeared in the rag over the years.



 --
 Steven Montgomery
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a
 standard of
 selfless public service and heroic private virtue against which American
 politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today.
 --Steven W. Mosher

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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread RB Scott
Less credible than what, for instance? And don't give me your b.s. about ny
times columnists and editorials.  For the moment, I was talking ONLY about
the credibility of the news organization, the fact vetting process etc.

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 12:13 PM
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 Whatever what? Credibility does matter.  But I guess that's your right to
 get your news from less than credible sources.

 --
 Steven Montgomery

 At 08:41 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote:
 Whatever.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:06 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources
  
  
   At 06:01 AM 11/15/2003, Ron Scott wrote:
  
  
   In my opinion, the news(this does not include editorialists or
   editorialists) organizations that are the most reliable are:
   
   1.  The New York Times group
  
   I read the New York Times with a grain of salt (Yes, I read an online
   version almost daily). When it comes to political matters they
   have little
   credibility to me. For instance, Walter Duranty--Pulitzer Prize
   winner for
   the New York Times was actually a Stalin Apologist and covered up
   Stalin's
   man made famine in the Ukraine which killed upwards of 6
 million people.
   They also made the claim that Fidel Castro was the George
 Washington of
   Cuba and was not a Communist. Plus many other liberally slanted news
   stories which have appeared in the rag over the years.
  
  
  
   --
   Steven Montgomery
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Nations are defined by their founders. George Washington set a
   standard of
   selfless public service and heroic private virtue against
 which American
   politicians continue to be measured - and found wanting - even today.
   --Steven W. Mosher
  
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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 10:34 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote:
Less credible than what, for instance? And don't give me your b.s. about ny
times columnists and editorials.  For the moment, I was talking ONLY about
the credibility of the news organization, the fact vetting process etc.
Well, certainly less credible than other news organizations that don't 
print fabrications from Times reporters--like Jason Blair, John Burns or 
Judith Miller. But, perhaps, more credible than say Al Jazeera vbg.



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Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper . . The real 
extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in a 
situation to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the 
day. I really look with commiseration over the great body of my fellow 
citizens, who reading newspapers, live and die in the belief, that they 
have known something of what has been passing in the world in their time . 
. . General facts may indeed be collected from them, such as that Europe is 
now at war . . . but no details can be relied on. (Thomas Jefferson, Letter 
to John Norvell, June 11, 1807)

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RE: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-15 Thread RB Scott


 -Original Message-
 From: Steven Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 2:27 PM
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 Subject: RE: [ZION] Good News Sources
 
 
 At 10:34 AM 11/15/2003, you wrote:
 Less credible than what, for instance? And don't give me your 
 b.s. about ny
 times columnists and editorials.  For the moment, I was talking 
 ONLY about
 the credibility of the news organization, the fact vetting process etc.
 
 Well, certainly less credible than other news organizations that don't 
 print fabrications from Times reporters--like Jason Blair, John Burns or 
 Judith Miller. But, perhaps, more credible than say Al Jazeera vbg.

Very big grin.  Hmmm. I guess this wasn't serious discussion afterall. 

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[ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-14 Thread John W. Redelfs
Ron,

What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web?  How about 
off the Web?

I know that Marc Schindler continually gushed over the Economist, and truth 
be told, I found it a good source of news.  But I still read The New 
American, Newsmax, and Worldnet Daily on the Web.   They make no 
pretense of objectivity, but they give me the right-wing slant that I can't 
get anywhere else.

What am I overlooking.  I'm a little bored with the news sources I've been 
using.  I'd like to try something new.

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Re: [ZION] Good News Sources

2003-11-14 Thread Steven Montgomery
At 05:52 PM 11/14/2003, you wrote:
Ron,

What do you feel are some of the best news sources on the Web?  How about 
off the Web?

I know that Marc Schindler continually gushed over the Economist, and 
truth be told, I found it a good source of news.  But I still read The 
New American, Newsmax, and Worldnet Daily on the Web.   They make no 
pretense of objectivity, but they give me the right-wing slant that I 
can't get anywhere else.

What am I overlooking.  I'm a little bored with the news sources I've been 
using.  I'd like to try something new.

John W. Redelfs
Once in a while I visit www.jrnyquist.com for a little different viewpoint 
of the right wing slant.



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beginning they introduced a variation of the 1968 Czechoslovakian 
'democratization.' At a later phase they will shift to a variation of the 
Czechoslovakian takeover of 1948. -Anatoliy Golitsyn, _New Lies for 
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