Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-21 Thread Jon Spencer
Well .. As I have been fully qualified for all ordinanaces and supervisory positions in the Temple other than the Baptistry, all I can say is that this doctrine is certainly not taught there. We don't teach it in Seminary. It is not taught in Sunday School. It hasn't been taught in General

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Osborne
On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 08:11:16 -0700 Rick Mathis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now there are some definite advantages to a solid LDS heritage, and > the > righteousness of ancestors results in blessings that last through > generations, but when you get down to brass tacks, all the righteous > >

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-21 Thread Rick Mathis
At 09:59 PM 6/19/2003 -0400, Tom wrote: There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in church, and especially within their family, this doctrine. Seems that, according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness.

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-20 Thread Maj Tom Merrill
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 05:38 AM 6/20/03 -0700, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Maj Tom Merrill wrote: Grampa Bill comments: Reading the first several answers to the Good Major's query, there seems to be near unanimity that the doctrine being taught is false. I'm not quite sure. True eno

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-20 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 05:38 AM 6/20/03 -0700, Grampa Bill in Savannah wrote: Maj Tom Merrill wrote: ...according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group?

RE: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-20 Thread Jim Cobabe
This doctrine of the election of grace is as follows: "As part of the new song the saints will sing when they 'see eye to eye' and the millennial era has been ushered in will be these words, 'The Lord hath redeemed his people, Israel, According to the election of grace, Which was brought to pa

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-20 Thread Grampa Bill in Savannah
Maj Tom Merrill wrote: ...according to them, some families within Israel have been singled out for greatness. That there are lineages that have been set aside to rule and reign over the rest of us. What is the opinion of the group? = Grampa Bill comments: Reading the fir

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Harold Stuart
Answer in one word: Bogus Answer in two words: False Doctrine They can't show it from the scriptures, and this sort of teaching will prove to be their undoing. We are all, in a very real sense, royal families. We are all children of a King. Harold Stuart On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 0

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:59 PM 6/19/03 -0400, MajĀ¹ Tom Merrill wrote: Folks I guess I'll turn off the "lurk mode" and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is "royal families." There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in ch

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Ronn! Blankenship
At 09:59 PM 6/19/03 -0400, Maj Tom Merrill wrote: Folks I guess I'll turn off the "lurk mode" and bring up something about which I have a passionate opinion. The subject is "royal families." There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would call a prominent family. They teach in chu

Re: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Paul Osborne
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:59:09 -0400 Maj Tom Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Folks > > I guess I'll turn off the "lurk mode" and bring up something about > which > I have a passionate opinion. The subject is "royal families." > > There is someone in my stake who comes from what some would

RE: [ZION] Royal Families

2003-06-19 Thread Noel B
I would suggest that this represents the pride that the Lord has continually warned us about. The first and last thought I have on this is: The last shall be first and the first shall be last... Joe -Original Message- From: Maj Tom Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 1