Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Withers
Tino Wildenhain wrote: apt-get install wwwoffle :-) C:\Zope>apt-get install wwwoffle 'apt-get' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. :-( Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.u

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-24 Thread Tino Wildenhain
Chris Withers schrieb: ... One of the non-cool things though, is that Firefox doesn't download links on pages without you clicking on them... bummer when you're working offline ;-) apt-get install wwwoffle :-) Regards Tino ___ For more information a

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: That page is part of a collection of pages and it links to other pages to provide details on various subjects. One of the cool things about the web is that you don't have to put everything in a single page. One of the non-cool things though, is that Firefox doesn't download

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-24 Thread Jim Fulton
Chris Withers wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: See the egg intro doc at http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/ PythonEggs . I've scanned that before... Jim's mentioned some pretty deep and interesting stuff, I wondered if he'd found more in-depth docs or whether I was just missing stuff on

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-24 Thread Chris Withers
Chris McDonough wrote: See the egg intro doc at http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/ PythonEggs . I've scanned that before... Jim's mentioned some pretty deep and interesting stuff, I wondered if he'd found more in-depth docs or whether I was just missing stuff on that page... Chris --

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-23 Thread Chris McDonough
Package "depth" has no impact on performance (at least that I've noticed). It's almost certainly not the primary reason for any given Python program to be slow. I'd like to read that blog entry to see if that person knows more than I do. As far as eggs go, AFAIK, package depth is not real

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-23 Thread Tamas Hegedus
Hi! Somewhere I have red (in a blog) comparing java and python. If I remember well the main reason to write that was the Boa (?) constructor written by java programmers... So: It states that Python packages should be as flat as possible (use less names in the namespace (?)), since the name s

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-23 Thread Chris McDonough
See the egg intro doc at http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/ PythonEggs . Maybe the best example of using eggs as packaging units is in TurboGears. You can see it in action by installing it. - C On Jan 23, 2006, at 9:32 AM, Chris Withers wrote: Jim Fulton wrote: 2. I think a real

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-23 Thread Chris Withers
Jim Fulton wrote: 2. I think a real packaging system, like eggs would have helped here. Eggs in particular would have allowed multiple versions of zope.interface to be installed. Zope would have gotten the version it needed and ZODB would have gotten the version it needed. (Hm, maybe

RE: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-20 Thread Tim Peters
[Jim Fulton] > I have 2 answers. :) > > 1. This points out the benefit of not treating Zope as a library. > Zope releases contain specific configurations of packages known > to work together. It should have control over that configuration > and it can't do that if everything is slammed

Re: [ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-20 Thread Jim Fulton
Tim Peters wrote: ... That's my fault, and I apologize for the inconvenience. Alas, I'm not sure it won't happen again -- while sharing packages across projects has many attractions, it also creates that many more opportunities for "related" projects to get out of synch wrt the package versions

[ZODB-Dev] RE: lost "implementer"

2006-01-19 Thread Tim Peters
[replying to private email here, with permission] [Egon Frerich] > maybe you are interested in this. > > I installed Zope 3 (version 3.2) in python 2.4.2 site-packages (Windows > XP Home - but I assume this is not important). Windows isn't relevant to the problem you hit, no. > Then I installed