Re: [zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local zone mount points open

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Lawrence
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 04:21:47PM -0500, Tillman, Gregory wrote:
> Thanks, this looks feasible, although awkward.  I also considered simply
> moving the filesystem to the global zone's vfstab, and set it to mount
> under /zones/my_zone/root (ie mount it into the local zone).  This is
> probably a bad idea, but I'm not entirely sure why.

This will cause booting myzone to fail, as there would be an existing
mountpoint in a subdirectory of the zone's root:

# zoneadm -z myzone boot
zoneadm: zone 'myzone': These file-systems are mounted on subdirectories of 
/zones/myzone/root:
zoneadm: zone 'myzone':   /zones/myzone/root/logdir
zoneadm: zone 'myzone': call to zoneadmd failed

I need to dig up the reason for why this restriction exists.  On initial
inspection, it looks like halting a zone unmounts everything under the
zone's root.  If we did not have this restriction, then a non-global zone
root user could cause a umount in the global zone of a filesystem that existed
prior to the zone's existance.

scenerio:
- mount made under /zones/myzone/root/logdir by global zone root.
- myzone is attached/booted
- myzone is halted by non-global zone root, umounting all under
  /zones/myzone/root
-  This umounts /zones/myzone/root/logdir in the global zone.

This seems like it would be bad.  To lift this restriction, zone halt would
need to be enhanced to know which filesystems under the zone's root should NOT
be umounted on halt.  This could be non-trivial.

You can do the mount AFTER creating myzone.  From global zone:

zoneadm -z myzone ready
mount /zones/myzone/root/logdir
share /zones/myzone/root/logdir
zoneadm -z myzone boot

But then you have to keep in mind that each time the zone is halted,
/zones/myzone/root/logdir will become unmounted.  If the zone reboots on
its own, then it will unmount /zones/myzone/root/logdir during halt,
boot up again without mounting /zones/myzone/root/logdir, and start loggin
in the wrong place.  Not good.

-Steve

> 
> - greg 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:16 PM
> To: Glenn Faden
> Cc: Tillman, Gregory; zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local
> zone mount points open
> 
> I'm guessing your zonecfg for myzone looks something like:
> 
> fs:
> dir: /logdir
> special: /dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0
> raw: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0
> type: ufs
> options: []
> 
> If you want to share the filesystem from the global zone, mount the
> device in the global zone, and in the non-global zone, just use a lofs
> mount to the global zone:
> 
> In global /etc/vfstab:
> /dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0 /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir ufs
> - yes -
> 
> In global /etc/dfs/dfstab
> share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir
> 
> In zonecfg for myzone:
> fs:
> dir: /logdir
> special: /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir
> type: lofs
> options: []
> 
> I tested this using the solaris express developer release, and it works.
> This most likely works on the latest s10 update, but please check.
> 
> -Steve L.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:07:19AM -0800, Glenn Faden wrote:
> > This feature is not supported with standard Solaris. It is only 
> > supported in Trusted Extensions. There are at least two problems in 
> > standard Solaris. As you pointed out, the NFS sharing should not take 
> > place until the zone is booted, and it should be unshared when the 
> > zone is halted. TX does the share and unshare operations automatically
> 
> > at the right time (within zoneadmd). TX maintains separate dftstab 
> > files for each zone.
> > 
> > Secondly, the pathname, e.g. /zones/myzone, is not searchable  except 
> > by root.. So anything that was exported would not be available anyway.
> 
> > This is also fixed in TX by special casing the zonepath permissions
> for NFS.
> > 
> > --Glenn
> > 
> > Tillman, Gregory wrote:
> > 
> > >I understand that NFS-exports need to be done in the global zone, so 
> > >I dutifully added:
> > >
> > >share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/myzone/root/logdir
> > >
> > >to /etc/dfs/dfstab of my global zone.
> > >
> > >But when the master system rebooted, the NFS export happened before 
> > >the local zone could boot.  So the zone could not mount this 
> > >filesystem, because the mount point was busy, and the zone boot 
> > >failed.  The problem may also occur with a simple r

RE: [zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local zone mount points open

2007-01-18 Thread Tillman, Gregory
Thanks, this looks feasible, although awkward.  I also considered simply
moving the filesystem to the global zone's vfstab, and set it to mount
under /zones/my_zone/root (ie mount it into the local zone).  This is
probably a bad idea, but I'm not entirely sure why.

- greg 

-Original Message-
From: Steve Lawrence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:16 PM
To: Glenn Faden
Cc: Tillman, Gregory; zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local
zone mount points open

I'm guessing your zonecfg for myzone looks something like:

fs:
dir: /logdir
special: /dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0
raw: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0
type: ufs
options: []

If you want to share the filesystem from the global zone, mount the
device in the global zone, and in the non-global zone, just use a lofs
mount to the global zone:

In global /etc/vfstab:
/dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0 /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir ufs
- yes -

In global /etc/dfs/dfstab
share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir

In zonecfg for myzone:
fs:
dir: /logdir
special: /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir
type: lofs
options: []

I tested this using the solaris express developer release, and it works.
This most likely works on the latest s10 update, but please check.

-Steve L.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:07:19AM -0800, Glenn Faden wrote:
> This feature is not supported with standard Solaris. It is only 
> supported in Trusted Extensions. There are at least two problems in 
> standard Solaris. As you pointed out, the NFS sharing should not take 
> place until the zone is booted, and it should be unshared when the 
> zone is halted. TX does the share and unshare operations automatically

> at the right time (within zoneadmd). TX maintains separate dftstab 
> files for each zone.
> 
> Secondly, the pathname, e.g. /zones/myzone, is not searchable  except 
> by root.. So anything that was exported would not be available anyway.

> This is also fixed in TX by special casing the zonepath permissions
for NFS.
> 
> --Glenn
> 
> Tillman, Gregory wrote:
> 
> >I understand that NFS-exports need to be done in the global zone, so 
> >I dutifully added:
> >
> >share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/myzone/root/logdir
> >
> >to /etc/dfs/dfstab of my global zone.
> >
> >But when the master system rebooted, the NFS export happened before 
> >the local zone could boot.  So the zone could not mount this 
> >filesystem, because the mount point was busy, and the zone boot 
> >failed.  The problem may also occur with a simple reboot of the local

> >zone, I haven't tried that yet.
> >
> >This must be a common problem, so I wondered if there is a 
> >recommended solution.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >- greg
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> > 
> >
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Re: [zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local zone mount points open

2007-01-18 Thread Steve Lawrence
I'm guessing your zonecfg for myzone looks something like:

fs:
dir: /logdir
special: /dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0
raw: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0
type: ufs
options: []

If you want to share the filesystem from the global zone, mount the device
in the global zone, and in the non-global zone, just use a lofs mount to
the global zone:

In global /etc/vfstab:
/dev/dsk/c0t1d0s0 /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s0 /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir ufs - yes -

In global /etc/dfs/dfstab
share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir

In zonecfg for myzone:
fs:
dir: /logdir
special: /zones/zone_logs/myzone_logdir
type: lofs
options: []

I tested this using the solaris express developer release, and it works.  This
most likely works on the latest s10 update, but please check.

-Steve L.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:07:19AM -0800, Glenn Faden wrote:
> This feature is not supported with standard Solaris. It is only 
> supported in Trusted Extensions. There are at least two problems in 
> standard Solaris. As you pointed out, the NFS sharing should not take 
> place until the zone is booted, and it should be unshared when the zone 
> is halted. TX does the share and unshare operations automatically at the 
> right time (within zoneadmd). TX maintains separate dftstab files for 
> each zone.
> 
> Secondly, the pathname, e.g. /zones/myzone, is not searchable  except by 
> root.. So anything that was exported would not be available anyway. This 
> is also fixed in TX by special casing the zonepath permissions for NFS.
> 
> --Glenn
> 
> Tillman, Gregory wrote:
> 
> >I understand that NFS-exports need to be done in the global zone, so I
> >dutifully added:
> >
> >share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/myzone/root/logdir
> >
> >to /etc/dfs/dfstab of my global zone.
> >
> >But when the master system rebooted, the NFS export happened before the
> >local zone could boot.  So the zone could not mount this filesystem,
> >because the mount point was busy, and the zone boot failed.  The problem
> >may also occur with a simple reboot of the local zone, I haven't tried
> >that yet.
> >
> >This must be a common problem, so I wondered if there is a recommended
> >solution.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >- greg 
> >___
> >zones-discuss mailing list
> >zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
> > 
> >
> 
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Re: [zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local zone mount points open

2007-01-18 Thread Glenn Faden
This feature is not supported with standard Solaris. It is only 
supported in Trusted Extensions. There are at least two problems in 
standard Solaris. As you pointed out, the NFS sharing should not take 
place until the zone is booted, and it should be unshared when the zone 
is halted. TX does the share and unshare operations automatically at the 
right time (within zoneadmd). TX maintains separate dftstab files for 
each zone.


Secondly, the pathname, e.g. /zones/myzone, is not searchable  except by 
root.. So anything that was exported would not be available anyway. This 
is also fixed in TX by special casing the zonepath permissions for NFS.


--Glenn

Tillman, Gregory wrote:


I understand that NFS-exports need to be done in the global zone, so I
dutifully added:

share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/myzone/root/logdir

to /etc/dfs/dfstab of my global zone.

But when the master system rebooted, the NFS export happened before the
local zone could boot.  So the zone could not mount this filesystem,
because the mount point was busy, and the zone boot failed.  The problem
may also occur with a simple reboot of the local zone, I haven't tried
that yet.

This must be a common problem, so I wondered if there is a recommended
solution.

Thanks

- greg 
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[zones-discuss] NFS exports from global zone holding local zone mount points open

2007-01-18 Thread Tillman, Gregory
I understand that NFS-exports need to be done in the global zone, so I
dutifully added:

share -F nfs -o ro=stats.lmig.com /zones/myzone/root/logdir

to /etc/dfs/dfstab of my global zone.

But when the master system rebooted, the NFS export happened before the
local zone could boot.  So the zone could not mount this filesystem,
because the mount point was busy, and the zone boot failed.  The problem
may also occur with a simple reboot of the local zone, I haven't tried
that yet.

This must be a common problem, so I wondered if there is a recommended
solution.

Thanks

- greg 
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