Re: [zones-discuss] running sol8 on a zone?

[Steffen Weiberle]

I would agree. Virtualization covers a spectrum, and within what we 
have and are working on, it goes from dynamic system domains with 
physical separation of OS instances to Solaris Resource Manager, which 
limits resource consumption within a single instance of Solaris and 
does not do any other type of isolation. In between are Solaris 
Container's zones, with process and name-space isolation, and LDoms, 
Xen, and VMware.


So the product the URL referred to can manage some of that.

I use the terms container and zones interchangably, and in context 
that is understood.


The term Container was not coined until late in Solaris 9's life, as 
zones technology was starting to become publicly talked about and 
used. It still can be confusing. Not that this is the only case :) [1]


Steffen

[1] How often has someone asked about iPlanet, SunONE, Java Enterprise 
Systems, [IBM] WebSphere, etc. when referring to a specific service 
such as web/http, app server, portal, firewall, etc.


Ihsan Zaghmouth wrote On 09/17/06 16:27,:

Irlando,

I guess you are confusing the term *"container"* for *"zone"*.  Am I 
right or Wrong ?
Containers are resources that used to exist before Zones came into 
picture in Solaris10.
*Containers are "Projects/Tasks"* that are defined under either 
framework, * Global or Local Zones.*


The evolution of SRM (Solaris Resource Manager) started in 2.6 and had 
Containers evolution support in 8 and 9.
In Solaris10, another isolated level from the Global Zone, was the birth 
of Local Zones, supporting Projects at their level too.


Accordingly, it won't be fair to relate *Solaris8 *to be virtualized 
within a *Solaris10 Zone*. It won't make sense to mix both releases.


That is my belief. Any thoughts to the discussion ?

cheers
Ihsan


Irlando Barros wrote:


IHAC with the following question after I aswered NO to his original
question because all zones share a common kernel,(solaris 10); than he
reply with following:

does Sun provides or promotes/supports (from another vendor) any method
of virtualization for Solaris8?

How about this
http://www.sun.com/software/products/container_mgr/index.xml  ?

Thanks in advance for your time and help
Irlando




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Re: [zones-discuss] running sol8 on a zone?

[Ihsan Zaghmouth]

Irlando,

I guess you are confusing the term "container" for "zone". 
Am I right or Wrong ?
Containers are resources that used to exist before Zones came into
picture in Solaris10.
Containers are "Projects/Tasks" that are defined under either
framework,  Global or Local Zones.

The evolution of SRM (Solaris Resource Manager) started in 2.6 and had
Containers evolution support in 8 and 9.
In Solaris10, another isolated level from the Global Zone, was the
birth of Local Zones, supporting Projects at their level too.

Accordingly, it won't be fair to relate Solaris8 to be
virtualized within a Solaris10 Zone. It won't make sense to mix
both releases.

That is my belief. Any thoughts to the discussion ?

cheers
Ihsan


Irlando Barros wrote:

  IHAC with the following question after I aswered NO to his original
question because all zones share a common kernel,(solaris 10); than he
reply with following:

does Sun provides or promotes/supports (from another vendor) any method
of virtualization for Solaris8?

How about this
http://www.sun.com/software/products/container_mgr/index.xml  ?

Thanks in advance for your time and help
Irlando




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[zones-discuss] running sol8 on a zone?

[Irlando Barros]

IHAC with the following question after I aswered NO to his original
question because all zones share a common kernel,(solaris 10); than he
reply with following:

does Sun provides or promotes/supports (from another vendor) any method
of virtualization for Solaris8?

How about this
http://www.sun.com/software/products/container_mgr/index.xml  ?

Thanks in advance for your time and help
Irlando




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